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Comment by Napoleon Bonaparte on December 7, 2012 at 10:15pm
Comment by sk8eycat on December 7, 2012 at 7:49pm *sigh* I meant to say "Nativity-Nut" cracking. I'm really having problems typing and proofing.
Oh, WTF. Here's another good seasonal greeting:
A new version of one of my faves.
Comment by sk8eycat on December 7, 2012 at 6:02pm I just noticed that a photo I tried to post yesterday didn't "work," so I'm trying again
Happy Nut-Cracking Holidays to ALL!

Comment by booklover on December 7, 2012 at 5:30pm I just love your perspective Joan. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and stories. They always make me feel good. :)
Ruth, we have missed you too! What you are working on is SO cool. I would have no idea how to even start something like that. I am amazed that I figured-out how to get an Atheist Nexus app. on my iPhone, and that was with help from Steph! lol.
My daughter left just now to go visit a friend for the weekend 2 1/2 hours away. I hate that she's driving in the dark. I made her take my car which is over a decade younger than her car, and much safer. I will relax when she texts me that she is there safe and sound! :)
I hope everyone has a good weekend! I just got back from visiting with 2 liberal, Atheist friends, so I feel 'up.' :)~ Melinda
Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2012 at 3:42pm Melinda, you wrote, "I lost a friend a month or so ago from me posting Atheist things, but, good riddance then! Sounds cold, but I can't care anymore."
I don't think that is a cold response at all. If you write honestly, from your thinking and feeling, then those who don't like it don't need to read it.
My cousin is a very devout born-again wife of a Lutheran minister. At some point a year or so ago, I wrote on Facebook that faith and belief in god and expecting answers to prayers may feel good, but I perceived that kind of god as too small. That hit a painful nerve in her and she started a deeply felt description and discussion about her god not being small, but very loving.
We set the ground-rules that either of us had the right to block or un-friend the other. Neither one of us persuaded the other to change our positions. I think that is just fine. No problem for me at all. But I held my position that if she opposed women's right to control her body, or if she wanted Intelligent Design in public school science classes, I would fight her with everything I have. What she believes is none of my business ... until and unless in imposes on my values.
Just keep in mind, Melinda, there are 7,083,782,270 human beings on this Earth and a Net population growth this year of 70,982,729. So, you and I won't run out of people to talk to and who want to share ideas without fighting.
Time and space expand at an ever increasing rate, with many other possibilities of life, probably not carbon based, or with a very different evolutionary development. The exciting thing to me is the realization that the human mind is capable of developing understanding about the processes of nature, and the absolutely splendid opportunity we have to participate in its development.
Thankfully, the Dark Ages and their associated beliefs fade into history as we gain knowledge, understanding and the most important thing to me is the realization that we are all on this tiny little planet, racing through space and there is no need to fight over boundary lines of nations, or killing others who disagree about god/no god. We are part of a web and we have the ability to solve problems, resolve conflict, and create a compassionate and caring civilization. Rejoice!
Comment by Chris Dodds on December 7, 2012 at 1:39pm Whether you're a believer or a nonbeliever, there's something about the holiday season that just brings out the best in most people and I heard such a story this morning on the radio.
A Minnesota mother ordered an iPad for her son from Best Buy's website. Best Buy messed up the order and sent her five iPads while only charging her for one. Feeling honest, the mother contacted Best Buy to inform them of the error and return the four extra iPads. Best Buy's executives were so touched by her honesty that they told her to keep the four extra iPads at no charge to her and give them to those less fortunate.
The only downside to this story is that now the son knows what he's getting from his mother for Christmas
Comment by Idaho Spud on December 7, 2012 at 1:13pm "Join us on facebook" everywhere I look annoys me also Patricia. I have a facebook page, but I give them the minimum personal information possible, and I'm still thinking of quitting.
"Fetch the cat" is surprising.
Comment by Patricia on December 7, 2012 at 12:33pm Fetch the cat
Comment by Patricia on December 7, 2012 at 12:20pm We can't even listen to tv news without being told after every broadcast to ''join us on facebook''. This damn thing is like a creeping parasite as far as I'm concerned. I keep in touch with email, which is quite sufficient as far as I'm concerned, without joining a smothering, invasive, ''social'' site like that.
Change of subject.....will be doing ''after'' photos later today after the firescreen is put in place.
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