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Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 3. 58 Replies

This one seems a bit creepy, like the middle one shouldn't be able to change rotation like that. from Cheezburger.comContinue

Saving Number 90 - From Seth Andrews (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 1. 9 Replies

Seth says himself that the following is a departure from the usual fare his YouTube channel features.  Personally, I think it's a positive and constructive move, because it demonstrates that no, we are NOT just about atheism.  We're also very much…Continue

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Human Rights for Atheists, Agnostics and Secularists

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 27. 11 Replies

I just ran onto this YouTube video, promoting a change.org petition aimed at amending the United Nations charter supporting the abolition of all anti-blasphemy laws. The petition referenced by the video is…Continue

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Something we should all think about.....

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jun 19. 2 Replies

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Religious Calling (Mrs. Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller Jun 17. 0 Replies

Very curious - a Betty Bowers video with NO Betty Bowers!  Yahweh IS here, though, and he's gotten all 21st century with his own cell phone!!!  Can't help but notice that he's a bit selective with just WHO he wants to talk to.  Meh ... got to keep…Continue

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Ontario Premier, Kathleen Wynne

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Randall Smith Jun 15. 1 Reply

Kathleen Wynne is Ontario’s 25th Premier. She was first elected to the Ontario legislature in 2003 as the MPP for Don Valley West, and she became the leader of the Ontario Liberal Party in January 2013.Kathleen is dedicated to building a better…Continue

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Comment by Plinius on December 27, 2013 at 1:03am

Some years ago I read texts about the male usurpation of matriarchal societies and religions , but texts like these are always biassed one way or the other. As far as I remember Mary could have been a goddes in her own right and later incorporated in xtianity.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2013 at 10:01pm

Part 2

One example that made us have a really hearty laugh was the ancient stories of Pandora of Neolithic times. She was the bringer of water, grains, animals, and all things needed to survive and thrive according to the clay figurines, and ancient art. 

In Greek mythologyPandora (Greek: Πανδώρα, derived from πᾶν, pān, i.e. "all" and δῶρον, dōron, i.e. "gift", thus "the all-endowed", "the all-gifted" or "the all-giving". "She who sends up gifts,"[3] implying "from below" within the earth, which is a clue to an earlier myth." 

Pandora, c. 1626, Nicolas Régnier correctly portrayed Pandora with a jar, not a box, in his Allegory of Vanity—Pandora

Her tool was a jar. When the patriarchs told her story, she had a box of evil things, representing vanity, hunger, disease, evil spirits. Thus Pandora and her box of evil.

The oracles of Delphi were males, according to Greek tour guides. When Gimbutas and Eisler made statements about only women being oracles, the official guides, that we were required to have with us, refuted their version. The guide insisted no woman was worthy of such an honor. 

Patriarchally influences archaeologist not only re-told these stories, they also revised them to suit their political interests. 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2013 at 9:59pm

Patriarchal religions require dominance of male authority. 

When I travelled through Turkey, Greece, and Crete with Marija Gimbutas and Riane Eisler, they revealed that there was no evidence of a matriarchy in ancient times of the Neolithic to match patriarchy. Women were perceived as having special powers of bleeding and not dying, bearing and suckling children, and were wisdom keepers. 

Gimbutas, in her archeology digs near Thessaly, Greece, digging through layers of earth representing a period of time before contemporary estimates for Neolithic habitation in Europe — where other archaeologists would not have expected further finds — she unearthed a great number of artifacts of daily life which she researched and documented throughout her career."

"After a millennium when the Hun Empire collapsed, a distinct Slavic culture re-emerged and spread rapidly.""Neither Bulgars nor Avars colonized the Balkan Peninsula, after storming Thrace, Iilyria and Greece they went back to their territory north of the Danube. It was the Slavs who did the colonizing.[11]"

~ Marija Gimbutas

Obviously, patriarchal religions deny this and delude others into thinking female leaders assumed the same power as male leaders. 
Both Gimbutas and Eisler had their detractors, even among academics. Who can one trust as an archeologist? To whom does one go for authoritative evidence, patriarchal archaeologists or evidence based ones? 

Comment by sk8eycat on December 26, 2013 at 8:38pm

I meant to post this earlier today, but got involved with other stuff (trying to find a ride to HEAP "Home Energy Assistance Program," and similar things.)

Anyway,,,,

British Kitteh observes Bocksing Day

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 26, 2013 at 7:27pm

This is your death: Excellent!  Thanks Grinning Cat.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 26, 2013 at 6:53pm

This is your death - good one! Thanks Grinning Cat.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 26, 2013 at 4:51pm

Mindy, great image of a true believer "waiting on Jesus".

Ian, that's funny.

Comment by booklover on December 26, 2013 at 4:43pm

Ian, that is a real doozie of a slimming-plan.  Since I'm an Atheist, I'm going to have to eat less and exercise more.  Damn! ;)

Spud, love the tee-shirt!

Glad you all liked the picture.  GC, I hadn't seen "This is your Death" before! Wow!

Carl, you really must really be an easy-going person!  I'm glad you got to have some laughs with your co-workers.  Laughing makes everything better! That is great to have a job you love!  My husband hates his job, but he loves his customers, so there's that! Right now I'm loving NOT having a job. LOL.  Also very cool about your aunt!!! :)

Comment by Patricia on December 26, 2013 at 4:22pm

We got the travel nightmares on the news, but can't imagine working in it FA! Fun co-workers can make a big difference for mood.

Comment by Grinning Cat on December 26, 2013 at 3:51pm

That's a good one!

Might anyone here recall an SF short story I'm vaguely remembering, where a world's dominant religion looks a lot like the Catholicism we know -- except priests must be women, the bearers and givers of life; and receiving the sacrament means licking the priest's menstrual blood from its source?

 

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