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Comment by Joan Denoo on October 14, 2013 at 10:38pm
ScienceNOW Don't Ask the Expert Neil deGrasse Tyson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VTm9AIlS2M
I would like to see a science fiction movie scripted by Tyson. Imagination and originality counts.
Comment by Patricia on October 14, 2013 at 5:02pm

That's good for a chuckle, Melinda!

No idea Napoleon, I just saved & posted.

Sad to hear that Joseph!

Comment by booklover on October 14, 2013 at 4:09pm

Comment by booklover on October 14, 2013 at 4:09pm

Joan, what a wonderful weekend!  I love your description.  Your granddaughter is pretty, and your great-grandson adorable! What a neat family you grew!!!! :)  I agree with you about Carl having a generous nature, and no one needing to have so much.  I would love to be able to be more generous with money!  Maybe in time!  I do what I can now. I wish I had the guts to say what you say when someone says "I'll pray for you."

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 14, 2013 at 11:48am

Loren, love you tongue in cheek cartoon and your "wistful and gentle for a Monday morning" music. 

Patricia, great "copy dogs" clip. 

Hi Joseph. By all means, speak up about your beliefs, with concrete examples of why you don't believe superstitions and the dignity and self-respect you receive for yourself, knowing you stand on your own two feet and don't have to imagine some guy-in-the-sky helper available to pull you our of quicksand of one's own making. Why would anyone want to put faith into a belief system and scriptures of a Stone Age people who may have been good goat herders, but without the knowledge of science to help make informed decisions. Frankly, I find the whole religious thing ludicrous nonsense. I just had an experience with faux-religion.  A man living in a small community, a volunteer fire fighter, and a very religious man, suffers from acute leukemia. His church members sent cards and get well greetings as well as "I'll pray for you" messages and many said they would help with remodeling their home to make it easier for his wife to care for him. Not one church member who said they would pray came to help with the many tasks that needed to be done. The volunteer fire district members came, even with kids helping, and completed the job. I don't know if the man thanked god or his fire district members. I hope he made the connection. Cheap grace is no grace as far as I am concerned. I like caustic remarks to people who ask if I have been "saved", i.e. "No! I don't believe in superstitions!" or if they say, "I'll pray for you" I respond, "I'll think for you!" I don't think it is rude to be honest. It is stupid to be timid in such events. I hold no respect for religious thoughts. Others are entitled to their opinions, and not all opinions are equal. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 14, 2013 at 11:31am

Carl, you clearly have a compassionate heart! I can't think of a better way to spend a life; If basic needs are met, there is no reason to live in huge homes, drive expensive cars, have dozens of shoes, or any of the other extravagances one could choose. I really like the simpler life, with lots of laughter. It is the fun that comes with hard work, devotion to family and community that counts. Belonging fills a lot of empty holes in one's life. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 14, 2013 at 11:26am

Mindy, your news of your mother helping with your daughter's education debt reveals her generous and loving nature. However, it is a dirty shame that education debts cost so much and most families can't carry such a load. We desperately need help with education expenses. A rich nation should be able to take on that responsibility ... the whole nation benefits from well educated citizens. I am happy for your daughter and know it will be a big assist in getting her over this bump. 

Our nation grew in wealth and well-being with the education funds available for people returning from military service. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 14, 2013 at 11:18am

I spent the weekend at Laura's family's forest home and celebrated my great-grandson's 5th birthday with a houseful of kids running and playing in and out of the forest. The city kids, timid about their wilderness adventures, and my great-grandkids who also live in the forest, who are so wise about the flora and fauna of their 17 acres, I learn from them. We spent Sunday getting the farm machinery cleaned and stored for winter, blowing out water pipes, and Larry's grandson "burning" the nine wooden boxes Larry and his son built to grow next summer's vegetables. The burning was to prevent insect damage to the wood. They are so pretty! All lined up in rows of three with plenty of work space between the boxes. The two families' dogs joined in the celebration and the chores. Even the cats got into the act. The weather was crisp and sunny. They live on the north side of Mt. Spokane and the mountain range north of my home at a higher elevation. They have had killing frosts already. Although my granddaughter's home is on the county road and has all the trees cut and trimmed to protect from forest fires, my daughter's home is farther into the forest and out of sight of the other house. They continue to cut trees and thin to protect from forest fires. All the adults are volunteer members of Pend Oreille County Fire District 8, and the teen agers take the trainings that are appropriate for them. The fire district is more like a family then a civic organization. The help each other with projects, and one member is hospitalized with cancer. Many fire district volunteers turned out to clear the house of furniture and store it while some remodelled to prepare easy access for his care after he returns home. They then replaced everything back to normal. They also held a fund raiser to help with the family's extra expenses.  

Granddaughter Michelle and Great-grandson Noah

Comment by booklover on October 14, 2013 at 9:35am

Thanks Carl and Chris!

That is HILARIOUS Patricia!   I showed my daughter. :)

Hi Joseph!  That's SO disappointing!  Go ahead and tell them what you think of their beliefs!  You have just as much right to say what you don't believe, as they do to tell you what they do believe!

Where the heck did the weekend go?????????????

Comment by Joseph Corder on October 14, 2013 at 9:15am

If one person ask me if i've been baptized in the blood, I WILL BLOW A BASKET!!!  I WILL TELL THEM WHAT I THINK OF THEIR god and let the chips fall where they may!!

 

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