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Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Soren Sagan on Wednesday. 9 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Finding Your Roots

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Chris G on Tuesday. 9 Replies

I've been into genealogy for a long time. It's fun, especially with internet help, but increasingly frustrating. You see, I've hit "brick walls". And being a Smith doesn't make research any easier.Wouldn't you think I could find the death date and…Continue

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by sk8eycat Dec 12. 11 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by sk8eycat Nov 26. 41 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

Aljam

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 24. 4 Replies

I'm not a news hound by any stretch, but I do like to stay informed about what's going on in the world. (I despise "local" news with all the reports of murders, robberies, fires, etc.)The national "evening" news shows really irritate me. I hate…Continue

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 22. 79 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Comment by k.h. ky on June 29, 2014 at 12:08am
Sk8ycat, Carlin was wonderful. Have you seen Ricky Gervais do his bit on christians? Jim Jeffries is also very good. I believe Sentient has his link on his home page.
Comment by booklover on June 28, 2014 at 11:59pm
So true Joan!
We went to my husbands club tonight and watched fireworks with friends and family. Nice time! :)
Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 11:55pm

Great cartoon, Joan.  It pretty much sums up the human condition.  We live in such a crazy world and each one of us struggles to make sense of it the best we can.  It can be quite a balancing act at times. 

Comment by k.h. ky on June 28, 2014 at 11:54pm
Love that cartoon Joan.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 28, 2014 at 11:18pm

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 10:03pm

Felaine, I found this online copy of Ingersoll's Some Mistakes of Moses.  Thanks for the recommendation.

https://archive.org/details/somemistakesmose00ingeuoft

Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 4:41pm

No, my Flying Friend, I don't have Susan Jacoby's book on American Freethought; I have a very battered old copy of the Orvin Larsen biography of Ingersoll, American Infidel.  It is still considered the best, most thoroughly researched (and footnoted), of all the biographies of the Great Agnostic of the 19th Century.

I have another one of Jacoby's books...something about "American Unreason;" I haven't been able to finish it...it's so depressing.

I doubt that Ingersoll would be able to hold an audience for 2+ hours today...our attention spans are much more limited and conditioned to the constant babble of sound bites and one-liners, and the constant need to get wherever we are going as quickly as possible (crammed into seats designed for skeletons), whether it's good for the environment and our psyches or not.

Sigh.  Off I go on another hobby-horse.

George Carlin was off to a good start, but his audiences were smaller (not counting his few HBO appearances), and he got off to a late start on his criticism of religion.  At least we have his recordings.... 

Lenny Bruce also did a short bit called "Religions Incorporated" that touched off a small firestorm here in SoCal, but it was about a local issue, and probably meant nothing to anyone outside of the Los Angeles area. (It was about the land that Dodger Stadium still occupies today...the JWs wanted it for a cemetery.)

So there have been short bursts of iconoclasm, but nothing as cogent and lasting as Ingersoll's 30-year career touring the contiguous US...even...or especially...in the buybull belt.  People hungered for his views on the absurdities of both testaments.  He was scathing about the addition of hell which was the only original contribution of xianity.

I could go on and on, but read Jacoby, and then try to find a (used) copy of American Infidel.  You can buy a new copy from the FFRF bookstore, but I prefer bargain-hunting at Half.com.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 2:12pm

Felaine, you must have forgotten about the ever-important and obviously true phrase, "With God, all things are possible." 

BTW, I have Susan Jacoby's book The Great Agnostic, Robert Ingersoll and American Freethought here in my pile of books waiting to be read.  It came highly recommended.  Have you read it?

Comment by booklover on June 28, 2014 at 12:27pm
You are right Felaine! I will also look for that book! Thanks for the recommendation!
Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 12:14pm

Mindy, whoever created that meme for Cheezburger should have phrased it "ILLITERATE tribal goat herders."  Because they were.

150 years ago Robert Ingersoll (and others) pointed out that Moses could not possibly have written the Pentateuch because, at the time of the non-exodus, the Hebrews had no written language.  So the fabled stone tablets of the 10 Demands would have been unreadable, among other things.

I keep mentioning Ingersoll in here because he was a phenomenon, considered by many (including his enemies) as the greatest orator at a time when that was considered a high art, not just for what he said, but the way that he said it.  People hung from girders and jammed SRO sections of large venues to hear him speak for 2 hours or more on subjects that are still considered (by some) as shocking.

"Some Mistakes of Moses" is one of his best, most popular lectures, and it's available in trade paperback as a separate book.  Well worth reading, and keeping.  In it he shreds, slices, and dices the first 5 books of the buybull; good stuff to have on hand when confronted by fundamentalists of any persuasion.  Or just for laughs.

He was an iconoclast, but he was also very much the gentleman.  We need him today.

 

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