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Comment by Loren Miller on March 25, 2014 at 7:50am

Joan, I'd be curious to know where you found that "Take sides" Heinlein quote.  I think of myself as knowing RAH pretty well, but I don't think I've run onto that one before.  If you have a source for the quote, I'd love to see it.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 24, 2014 at 9:35pm

I don't think so.  The context was something about people in Virginia and New England who were/are obsessed with their lineage; whose ancestors arrived there earliest, etc.  They tended to snub "newcomers" whose families had only been there since the end of the Civil War.  Or something like that.

I'm sure it was in a novel, but the author could have gotten it from her own research...she's the kind of person who has been soaking up history like a sponge since childhood.  Rita Mae Brown.  (I was NOT reading one of her Sneaky Pie kitty mysteries!  Although I enjoy them, and we do have most of them.  tee-hee!)

http://www.ritamaebrown.com/content/index.asp

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2014 at 9:30pm

There are many of my family and friends who say forget the past, move on. That would be fine, if the past were not repeating before my eyes. So I now have these comebacks that you all cited:

A generation which ignores history has no past -- and no future.

-- Robert A. Heinlein

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.“ 

~ George Santayana

"I think we have to act with the consciousness of the past and awareness of the present in order to address the future.  We can't afford the blinders that others would superimpose on us."

~ Loren Miller 

"We do have to look behind, at least to know and acknowledge what has happened before us." 

~ Loren Miller

and I found this one while looking up details:

“Take sides! Always take sides! You will sometimes be wrong — but the man who refuses to take sides must always be wrong.”

~  Robert A. Heinlein

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2014 at 9:11pm

Felaine, I was curious, too, about the quote you cite and tried to find its source. This is one possibility: 

“A culture that worships the past is decadent.”

This may have come from the writings of a fundamentalist christian or from others of that persuasion: 

“Much of ancient Israel’s plight, well documented throughout the Old Testament, was its insatiable thirst for pagan nature worship. This of course was in direct violation of the first two commandments of the Mosaic Law which commanded Israel not to worship any other false god or idol (Exodus 20:3-4). The reason why Israel was forbidden to worship other gods, the natural created order, and idols, was given in Genesis. Genesis 1 presents to the reader an ultimate Creator who made the universe out of nothing through His omnipotent spoken word, and then climaxed the creation process with the making of man in His own image."

(emphasis mine)

Baalism's Suicidal Nature Worship and Sexual Decadence

Comment by booklover on March 24, 2014 at 5:32pm

I just HAD to put this up because it says CARL. LOL :)

Comment by Loren Miller on March 24, 2014 at 5:27pm

A generation which ignores history has no past -- and no future.
-- Robert A. Heinlein

Comment by booklover on March 24, 2014 at 4:12pm

That's good Felaine!

Comment by sk8eycat on March 24, 2014 at 3:43pm

Oh, I believe Santayana's remark about repeating the past. 

There was another observation that I read last night that a culture that worships the past is decadent.  I'm sorry that I can't give you a reference...I was scanning quotes on the net, and doing the same with several different books, including a couple of fantasy novels.  It may have been a Heinlein quote...I just don't remember.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 24, 2014 at 2:00pm

sk8ey, the only way I would amend Kennedy's statement is to recognize that we do have to look behind, at least to know and acknowledge what has happened before us.  Too well do I know the famous statement made by George Santayana about those not knowing the past being condemned to repeat it.  I think we have to act with the consciousness of the past and awareness of the present in order to address the future.  We can't afford the blinders that others would superimpose on us.

And I think I speak for all here when I say we won't wear 'em.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 24, 2014 at 12:32pm

Mindy, I don't know what "spirituality" means anymore...and I'm sure that most people who use any form of it don't know what they're talking about, either.  Here's a more concise version of the same statement:

 

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