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Comment by dr kellie on July 20, 2011 at 9:57am
Comment by Kit Blumenstein on July 20, 2011 at 9:52am

Yes, Texas does get ample amounts of sun, but even Sweden and Denmark are working on full on Solar projects.  We can't think in the mode of the propaganda but rather in what is actually possible through science today and tomorrow.

Since WWII, America has gone far beyond the scope of protecting our citizens.  We have delved deeply into the politics and management of other societies for our own gain.  To say that we do this for only assisting in humanitarian needs is simple a fallacy.  We do and have done this for the minerals and other gains.  We do this by making deals that keep other countries deeply in debt while we have allowed our corporations to reap the profits.  Take a look around we now live in an open corporatocracy/plutocracy that uses religion to rally the uninformed and label this patriotism.

Comment by Susan Stanko on July 20, 2011 at 7:18am
@Kit There is the Atheist Experience.
Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 2:16am

Ian, it was once that way here.

The change began in 1953 (the year after I returned from the Korean War) when Eisenhower gave the CIA his okay to overthrow Iran's elected government. Iran wanted England to pay more for Iranian oil and for the English-owned Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (which became BP) to treat its Iranian employees better.

The US of A installed a friendly tyrant and we taxpayers paid to train the Shah's secret police to frighten Iranians into obedience. In 1974 the Iranians overthrew the Shah. The US of A let him enter (allegedly for medical treatment),which so outraged young Iranians that they took over the American embassy.

A case can be made that 9/11 was payback for American foreign policy in the Middle East.

When someone says we acted in Iran to prevent a takeover by the Soviet Union, I ask if that was our reason for overthrowing elected governments in Central and South America (Guatemala and Chile).


Comment by Ian Mason on July 20, 2011 at 1:50am

At least one political commentator has described the difference between American and European government this way: In the U.S.A. it's the right-wing that runs up deficits (tax cuts, defence, prestige projects) and the Democrats that have to get things straight when they get into the White House. In Europe it's the opposite. The (vaguely) left-wing use a lot of money on social services that then are cut when the conservatives are in power in order to balance the budget.

Example: Reagan: big money for "Star Wars" etc: Thatcher: close or privatise anything that wasn't making a profit.


This may be a simple view but I've found it convincing.


Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 1:47am

I once saw a proposed balanced budget amendment. We can count on such an amendment to allow unbalanced budgets in crises, or when our elites want to support the military-industrial complex.


Comment by Natalie A Sera on July 20, 2011 at 1:31am
I heard on the radio today that the Gang of Six (3 Republicans, 3 Democrats) came to an agreement today that the Democrats will accept large cuts to social services, and the Republicans will accept tax increases. But the zinger was that the Republicans also got a Constitutional Amendment requiring a balanced budget. That scares me, because in times of economic stress, when govt. revenues fall, the economy needs stimulation, not contraction. Of course, a Constitutional Amendment would have to go through channels and be ratified by a certain percentage of states, but I wonder whether it could go through. There are enough people who really don't understand the realities of the federal government to make any kind of rational decision on it.
Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 1:30am

Before we turn our attention away from TX (How dare we?), here's something I heard when my wife and I lived in Austin:

At football games, TX A&M students throw firecrackers.

UT students light them and throw them back.

BTW, that was pre-Roe v. Wade and my wife taught fourth grade. The Austin schools had a sex ed program that started in second grade, and she happened to choose an MD who'd helped design the program. She kept him informed on was was happening in classrooms.


Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 1:18am

Kit, I too thank you for the Caselaw link. The Ninth is my second most favorite amendment, and by editing the URL slightly I found Caselaw's info on it.

I once asked ACLU's SCOTUS attorney when the Court might give meaning to the Ninth. He replied, "Not in our lifetimes."

I read a few years ago that the only amendment that has not been litigated (read, "...the gov't has not yet violated...") is the Third.


Comment by Chris G on July 20, 2011 at 12:42am
The Mc Collum case is worth looking at.

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