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Comment by sk8eycat on October 6, 2011 at 10:30pm

@ Atheist Voyager: THANK you!

This brings back such amazing memories, as I was working part-time at KCET when "Cosmos" (original title, "Man and the Cosmos") was in production.  I walked on the "Starhip of the Mind" set....stared with wonder at some of the large paintings  by astronomical artists Adolf Schaller and Rick Sternbach, and some of the props, including the large planets, were stored in the warehouse we used for Auction (the department I worked for).  I met Carl Saga briefly a few times...just walking across the lot.  (He was TALL!)  

I was so excited when the shows finally aired, and Sagan uttered the (then) slightly shocking words for all America to hear that, "Evolution is a fact."
 
One of the major thrills of my life.  I can't believe it was 30 years ago.
Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on October 6, 2011 at 9:57pm
I have no real problem with the Chinese.  Hey, my computer is a cheap Chinese knock off.  I had a few problems with the keyboard being wired for Chinese, but once I changed the operating system, that little problem went away.  The Chinese are smart, enterprising and they want our place on top.  If we're not careful, they may just get it.
Comment by Alice on October 6, 2011 at 9:36pm
I just spend a couple of days in Beijing - and I was really impressed - I really like the place and the people...
Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on October 6, 2011 at 9:14pm
It may be a smart short term strategy to send computer and other manufacturing jobs to China and other Third World countries, but hello!  No patent or copyright laws.  Nothing made there is protected.  India just came out with $45 computer and the $500 car.  Anything made in China is going to be knocked of  ten ways from Sunday, but hey, it saves a lot of money in the short term.  Until the Chinese start making the same thing for several hundred dollars less and under cut American .  Is anyone else concerned how fast China are moving up in the technology world?  I have a feeling they're the real geniuses.
Comment by Steph S. on October 6, 2011 at 8:56pm

Here's a picture at the Wall Street Protest

Brighton Wallace takes part in an "Occupy Austin" protest at Austin City Hall, Thursday, Oct. 6, 2011, in Austin, Texas. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
Comment by Steph S. on October 6, 2011 at 8:50pm

Here's a link to the protest of Wall Street In Austin, TX.

 

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/10/06/obama_acknowledg...
Comment by Steph S. on October 6, 2011 at 8:46pm
Did anyone have Wall Street protests in their city today?  There was a big protest in downtown Austin today.  They showed some of it on TV and the cops were in riot gear and were pushing the crowd back.
Comment by Julie Carter on October 6, 2011 at 8:13pm

I must have missed the part where Ian was self-indulgent and bitter and whatnot. I only saw a one-sentence statement about the suicide rate in China and the fact that it wasn't widely covered in the US (though I'd disagree with that; if I knew about it, it must have been fairly well-covered, because I'll admit to not being the biggest news watcher).

 

Alexa, I have no problem with your appreciation of Jobs and sadness at his passing. But I think you overreacted to Ian's statement, and it's unfair to start hurling personal insults at him. (Perhaps there is more to this than I'm seeing here? If there's some kind of history between you two, I'm not aware of it.)

 

However, I was recently at a conference where a marketing specialist who has worked with Apple explained that they aren't really the inventors of their products anymore; they are a company who has other companies develop (and manufacture) the products, and they are really the global distributors of the products. So while I have no doubt that Jobs was an intelligent man (in business) and very good at what he did, I think he's given too much credit for being an "inventor" of things he didn't really invent. He was one hell of a salesman, one hell of a marketer. And there's nothing wrong with that. But he didn't create all the things he's given credit for.

Comment by Maruli Marulaki on October 6, 2011 at 8:06pm
Ruth:  Is it true, that I get new comments by email, before you have approved them?   I got the last comment about five times, before it was visible here.
Comment by Lary9 on October 6, 2011 at 7:48pm
On the Uber-Homages to Steve Jobs:
I think that most people, who are ostensibly 'believers' in an afterlife, are conflicted. They're not exactly certain if there is an 'afterlife' and not sure if there isn't. Consequently, unlike ourselves, they haven't come to grips with any "certainty" at all about life continuing after death, no matter how much they claim the opposite and shout hysterical Hosannahs. In fact, the very act of communal worship with its repetitive praising and declarative dogmas actually reveals and reinforces the fragility of faith as a way of knowing. IMHO, church rituals serve to increase the deep seated ambivalence of parishioners about life after death. 
This why the living that are religious require such elaborated  memorialization of the dead... it shores up their "belief in things unseen and the hope of things to come" in times when human  mortality is unavoidably real. Myself... on the other hand, I've accepted certain eventual verities about biological death like all  natural undeniable things. That acceptance brings a special kind of peace with it.
 

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