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Betty Explains Religious Freedom (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randall Smith yesterday. 9 Replies

Well, considering all the RFRA bills popping up all over the United States, plus all the fun and games ISIS is bringing to the good folks in Syria and Iraq, Betty Bowers, the epitome of well-dressed christianity, has decided to clarify the true…Continue

Tags: persecution, ISIS, Religious Freedom, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner May 6. 82 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

Tags: surreal

Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Dominique Lutz Apr 16. 6 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

Tags: dispute at Hang With Friends

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Mar 29. 3 Replies

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling"the internet is a lifeline for people trapped in the most restrictive and stifling forms of…Continue

Tags: Warren Jeff, internet, FLDS

Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 24. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

Tags: Yahweh, YouTube, 43alley, Non Stamp Collector

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 15. 3 Replies

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline"Populations of Eel-like lamprey have suddenly plummeted since the year 2000 in the Columbia Basin, surprising…Continue

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Comment by Grinning Cat on July 28, 2012 at 9:24pm

Joan, thanks for the list! While religions do vary quite a bit in the harmfulness of the beliefs, the encouragement of faith based on untestable, unverifiable, strictly subjective claims is troublesome. So is the reliance on circular reasoning.

Which reminds me of Jim Huber's excellent parable "Kissing Hank's Ass", which many people here have hopefully seen. The whole thing is two pages; here are some snippets. A well-dressed couple shows up at the door, inviting the narrator to kiss Hank's ass with them...

John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the shit out of you."

Me:   "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."

[...]

John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"

Me:   "We do?"

Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

Me:   "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

Comment by Steph S. on July 28, 2012 at 8:03pm
What a cute cat Lol you posted Tony!
I love it!
I'll have to copy that picture - and all the others ones posted here of course.
Thanks for your list Joan - I agree.
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 28, 2012 at 8:01pm

Things that prevent me from believing in a god, any god:  

1. The imperative to submit, obey, follow teachings with which I do not agree. 

2. Perception of some as more human than others. 

3. A hierarchical system that places a god at the top to be obeyed:   males, preference for a specific race (Jewish, Anglo-S or Muslim) and women and children perceived as chattel.

4. Claims about miracles that defy natural laws of physics and depend on faith and belief. 

5. Defenses to back up their claims using untestable, unmeasurable, unverifiable rationale. 

6. Justification by using circular thinking: god, yahweh, allah authored scripture; scripture describes god's, yahwey's, allah's imperitives. 

Comment by Tony Carroll on July 28, 2012 at 7:50pm

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 28, 2012 at 4:10pm

Bandito cat is very funny!

Comment by Steph S. on July 28, 2012 at 2:02pm

Joan - thanks for the cats and books picture. I agree with booklover - now we just need some coffee in the picture.

I love coffee. Having chocolate truffle coffee today.

Comment by Steph S. on July 28, 2012 at 2:00pm

Love that LOL picture booklover!

Awesome

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 28, 2012 at 2:51am

sk8eycat, photo of Edward Gorey "Books, Cats, Life is Good" didn't come through. Is this the one? 

Comment by sk8eycat on July 28, 2012 at 2:24am

The story said the couple had been attending that church fo some time, but were not official members.  Still, I'm sure they put their money in the plate every Sunday.... 

I hope they at least find another church, but even better I would like them to think things through and join FFRF.

As for Chris' comment about "what woman would WANT to be in their parrty?"  I have wondered for decades, ever since I realized how anti-female ALL the Abrahamic religions have been for millennia, about women who want to be rabbis, priests, ministers of any kind. If they want to help people, there are all kinds of other public service organizations, plus medicine, etc. that feed, house, clothe, find jobs, and educate the needy...without trying to "save" their non-existant souls.

I wish someone would poll women cleric about why they went into The World's Oldest Profession.  (Shaman, Priests, etc., have been around a lot longer than prostitutes.  Who do you think decided women's sexual freedom was "wrong"?)

Comment by Steph S. on July 28, 2012 at 12:55am
Tony I saw that article on CNN and was just appalled by that. It saddens me that there are people like that out there.
 

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