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Seeing Things (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 19 hours ago. 2 Replies

TheraminTrees doesn't release videos very often these days,  but when he does, they are positive GEMS.  Most recent of his works is the following, wherein he dismantles some of the common rebuttals atheist get from believers when we assert our…Continue

Tags: seeing things, YouTube, TheraminTrees

Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15. 4 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

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You'll NEVER Guess Who Just Showed Up on Mr. Deity!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 14. 11 Replies

I don't believe this one either, but ... well, here it is: And would you believe - Mr. D made me laugh!  RD, that is!Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Mr. Deity

Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 6. 20 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Seth Andrews' New Book, "Sacred Cows" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Feb 6. 7 Replies

For the last few podcasts, Seth Andrews has been alluding to a new literary effort he's been working on.  Well, the cat is out of the bag ... or perhaps I should say, the cow is out of the barn!  Seth's new opus is entitled: Sacred Cows: a…Continue

Tags: book, Sacred Cows, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

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Comment by Idaho Spud on July 19, 2012 at 10:46am

Well put Ruth.  He is doing well for 17, especially considering it took me 50 years to overcome my brainwashing.  Also, I would probably be a happier person if I could be more tolerant.

However, my personality is such that I quickly get annoyed with dumb.  I'm kind to everyone, but I have no desire to waste what few years I have left trying to reason with the unreasonable.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 19, 2012 at 10:04am

Atheism is diverse. There are lots of individual religious claims to challenge that were pounded into us (who grew up in them). Obviously he hasn't challenged the "you can't be good without god" meme yet. Deconversion can be an incremental process, and some atheists will continue to carry particular religious "teachings" as part of their world view to the grave. I think it's best to tolerate stepwise growth, and accept them as people who are atheist, instead of feeling "atheir than thou". Appreciate them for the mental freedom they have achieved instead of focusing on the annoying bits left undone.

It takes some of us 45 years to shake off supernatural entities. He's doing well for 17.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 19, 2012 at 9:37am

Perhaps I'm a little hard on teenagers, but after 71 years I'm so very tired of so many of them acting like they know it all.

Personally, I've never been nearly as egotistical as most people I've met, even when I was 17.  I was brainwashed to be sure that Mormonism was true, but still didn't argue with anyone about it.  I've always been a lover of science, and so couldn't understand why someone could be so sure of anything without lots of good evidence to support it (with the exception of Mormonism, of course).  Therefore, I have little patience with someone that claims to be an atheist, and still defends religion.  The religions I'm familiar with do accomplish good things, but In my opinion, the bad things they do far outweigh the good.

I don't know a lot about Asberger's sufferers, but I read that they have normal reasoning abilities, so I don't think his illogic deserves a pass because of his condition.

Comment by Sarah on July 19, 2012 at 8:57am

I have to say, I'm a little put off by the tenor of the comments toward this 17 yo. Is it somehow inherently egotistical to disagree with people, even people who are older and more experienced? And is it somehow against the Atheist handbook to pull back from thinking that religion is the greatest scourge on the planet? (I happen to think it's right up there, but I don't think that view is at all necessary for one to be an atheist.)

Didn't we all think we knew everything at 17? I know I personally had lots of opinions and relished the idea of getting to talk with adults in a more peer fashion, rather than being thought of merely as a kid. Perhaps this kid felt that you weren't giving his views any respect and so reacted more strongly and defensively. Honestly, if someone had come at me with the attitude that I was still just a silly child who would learn and should defer to the greater wisdom of an elder, I probably would have, too.

Not to mention if he has Asperger's, then we should all know that communication isn't his strong suit and should probably give him the benefit of the doubt.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 19, 2012 at 7:59am

booklover, I agree with everyone, that a 17 year-old has a lot to learn.   That one seems especially egotistical, and I also wouldn't want to talk to him anymore.

sk8eycat, thanks for the excellent quotes.

Steph S., Dr Morris is a little scary.

Comment by dr kellie on July 18, 2012 at 10:11pm

Sorry about your issues, sk8eycat. 


I agree with you on the 17 yo.  I didn't really know who I was until I was in my late 20s.  I was too influenced to have my own mind.  It does take time.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 18, 2012 at 9:53pm

Hi, y'all!  I've been off-line about 24 sister was surfing around yesterday and did something that let a couple of horses in here.  I just got rid of MYSELF!  I'm so relieved, and got such a kick calling my tech friend and telling him "Never mind!" (Actually we thoroughly discussed the results of my last scan, and he said I'm safe.)

Why to people DO that?  Write viruses, worms, etc...I mean.  To steal information?  Because they like to cause damage?  I don't get it.

Steph: I wuvz dat ORNJ kitteh!  Mai favrit flaver!  An hiz cattitude reminz me ob mai own docter.  Dr. BadJokes.

booklover: The kid is way too young to have it all figured out yet.  He probably thinks he does, but he's got a long way to grow. Do you have any good books you can lend him while he's visiting? Dan Barker's Godless is one that I've worn out because I look things up so often, and it's not written in Academish.  Or do you have the DVD of Julia Sweeney's play "Letting Go of God"?  Doing that takes time...most adults who were raised in a religious family usually say it took them from five to ten years to realize they can't believe in a god.  (If you don't have the DVD, maybe your local library does.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2012 at 7:05pm

 booklover, that is an interesting twist, "Found out he is an Atheist." and ..."he disagreed with me totally when I told him my 92 year-old (when he died) grandfathers fav saying was that religion was the scourge of the Earth."

I wonder what part of atheist he doesn't understand? You all shall be having an interesting visit, I am sure. 

Comment by Steph S. on July 18, 2012 at 5:23pm

Cool booklover!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2012 at 3:38pm

sk8eycat, Perfect quotes! Re-posting!


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