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Comment by Steph S. on July 25, 2012 at 10:32am
Oh yeah Tony! I see what you mean. That Chick-Fil-A sign is all lies. And people will believe them because they are not discerning. Boycott Chick-Fil-A! They lie!
Comment by Tony Carroll on July 25, 2012 at 10:16am

Change of subject, my friends. Sorry, but I'm about to go on a little tear, a tirade. But some things just torque me off, chaps my ass, eats my lunch.

Dan Cathy, high and mighty potentate of Chick-Fil-A, had the following signs posted in his stores, after the Jim Henson group cut ties with Chick-Fil-A. Remember they cut the ties, not Chick-fil-A.

Do the terms liar, hypocrite, perjurer, malingerer, prevaricator, fabricator, equivicator, crock 'o shit, duplicitous dissimalator of a canard come to mind? This swaggering, tin plated, demagogue with delusions of granduer, defender of the faith that says to tell no lie, or bear falsr witness seems to have no difficulty with the concept of the slippery truth, or lack thereof.

Thanks for letting me bloviate, guys.

Comment by booklover on July 25, 2012 at 8:34am

I'm here to say I totally agree with all of you who chose not to be parents.  It should be a choice, and I'm sure life can be wonderful whatever choices we make.  As for myself, I have an 18-year old son  and a 20-year old daughter, and they are my life.   They have never purposely hurt me (or my husband), never done anything to get into any trouble, etc.  Of course they are not perfect.  Nobody is!  But I really have some terrific young adults, and many people have told me what great kids I have (not bragging, but they're awesome :).  Now.  As for the hell part, it's true, but for different reasons.  The second I had my first child, life became hell because I knew in that instant that I would NEVER have one second of complete peace again because I will WORRY about their well-being for the rest of my life.  They, of course, are more precious to me than my own life, but I also know they still need me, so I have to take care of me too.  I have to force myself to let them go, and not text them every half-hour just to check on them.  I will be a nervous-wreck the rest of my days.  But it's worth it to me.~ Melinda

Comment by Plinius on July 25, 2012 at 5:48am

Sk8eycat: I think you're right, being a parent must be hell. People often warned me that I'd be lonely when I was old and nobody visited me. I think of those warnings when I visit a demented childless aunt who lives in an old peoples home: the inmates (is that the right word?) who have got children are always complaining that their children never come and the childless ones are more or less happily interacting with everyone who stands still for a moment. I've never been lonely from the day I left my parents' church and house, I expect I'll manage when I grow older.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 25, 2012 at 2:47am

Tony, pissing some people off is FUN!  Especially when Moron Mormon missionaries come to the door, and I say or do nothing but laugh in their faces.

I need a banner that says, "I respect your right to believe whatever you choose to believe, but I don't have to respect what you believe."

Of course, that would piss off my JW sister and her friends. Tee-hee.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 25, 2012 at 2:39am

Chris: I'm 72, a couple of months shy of 73, and I have never regretted not having kids; many of my friends and relatives have gone through all kinds of adolescent stuff with their kids, from know-it-allism to drugs...and worse. 

When I was a teen, a lot of the current problems didn't even exist, or we didn't know about them.  Cigarettes and beer were the worst "drugs" I ever encountered at parties, and since I saw both of those at home, they just made me uncomfortable when I saw kids my age indulging.  (And I usually dropped guys after one date if they drank at a party. I was a dreadful little prig.)

Being a parent must be hell these days.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 25, 2012 at 2:29am

Patricia: It's a sign-board that says:


Tired of being harrassed by your stupid parents?


Move out. Get a job.

Pay you bills while you still know everything.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 25, 2012 at 12:12am

Chris Breman &  sk8eycat, I believe so strongly that every child should be a wanted child and if one of the parents does not want a child, that one's wish should be honored. I worked with too many troubled kids who felt unwanted, unloved, and unplanned and they carry those scars for a long time unless they find a healthy way to deal with it. Some never do. Life is too precious to do something because someone else thinks you should. That is one reason I am pro-choice. Each woman has the right to bear or not bear children. 

Comment by Plinius on July 24, 2012 at 11:26pm

Same for me Sk8eycat, and I never regretted that I held on to that idea, although a lot of people told me I'd be sorry. I never had the heart to say something similar when their children hurt them to the bone... 

Comment by Patricia on July 24, 2012 at 9:32pm

No pic Sk8ey


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