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Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Thursday. 13 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

Twin terrorists caught

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jan 11. 7 Replies

Canada: twin terrorists caught before going to Mideast Saturday, January 10, 2015 By Martin Barillas L-R: Carlos and Ashton Larmond The Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrested and charged a pair of 24-year-old identical twin brothers on…Continue

Betty Bowers Best of 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 4. 33 Replies

Happy New Year, everyone!  Now that we're off on another 365-day stint of sniping at believers, leave it to America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, to sum up the year past from her holier-than-EVERYBODY point of view! Have You had YOUR Betty today?!?Continue

Tags: 2014, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by booklover Dec 28, 2014. 23 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2014. 11 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by sk8eycat on April 13, 2013 at 1:13pm

Oh!  I'm laughing at Snack Cat and Argument Cat!  Thank you both!

To Chris and Joseph...Dr. Liz said that Prednizone might help reduce some of the swelling because the tumor is pushing his esophagus and trachea to the side, and eventually he'll have difficulty swallowing.  We're trying to delay that. I did not ask her "how long?" when we were in the clinic...I don't think I want to know just yet.

And, yes, it's "people Prednizone."  (A very tiny dose, 0.01ml once a day)  Most all meds that vets use on mammals are the same stuff we use.  This is nasty, but all pharmaceutical companies test new drugs on animals before they ever test them on humans.  The ironic thing is that the one family of drugs that helps so many humans (myself included) is useless or lethal for dogs and cats...simple pain meds. Especially aspirin.

In the meantime, I'm going to be sans computer till the 26th.  I'll try to check in with you all before I leave tomorrow. (Sue is picking me up around 6 or 7 PM, and we're having dinner at a little hole-in-the-wall that serves the most dee-lishus barbecued pork chow fun I've ever tasted. I NEED a treat!)

I've been thinking about buying some alphabet pasta ever since I saw that black cat...tee-hee!  That really is such a great remark to use on the doorbell ringers.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 13, 2013 at 11:54am

Melinda, I love the look on Snack Cat's face.

Argument Cat is funny FA.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 13, 2013 at 10:58am

Comment by booklover on April 13, 2013 at 9:04am

Comment by booklover on April 13, 2013 at 9:03am

Grinning Cat, I am so impressed that you can use Photoshop!  I am SO not computer-literate.

Ian, I am like you.  I can understand basically what people teach me about science, but I forget the numbers almost immediately, and could not explain it to anyone else.  I swear I don't have a math-gene in my body!

Ruth, Dale doesn't like to be touched except on his head!  He likes you to kiss the top of his head or scratch under his chin, etc.  Odd guy Dale! lol.

Good Weekend to everyone! :)

Comment by Joseph Corder on April 13, 2013 at 8:27am

So sorry to here about Jerry.  Prednisone?  Is it like prednisone for humans?  My mother has taken prednisone for low blood platelets.  I hate to see any kind of suffering!  Take care and give Jerry a rub nose for me!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 13, 2013 at 7:26am

G-Cat, thanks for the Logical Fallacy website.  I try to read about fallacies often so I can avoid making them in my arguments.  

It would also be a good thing if I could remember their names, but that's tough.

However, I'm always pleased to see that I recognize a lot of the fallacies and don't make them myself, even though I can't give them a name.

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:53am

In Ex-Adventists, Jen Phoenix shares an "awesome" website listing and explaining logical fallacies: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

It turns out arguments for belief in God are well represented in the examples! There's also a bad argument or two for nonbelief -- but we shouldn't forget the "fallacist's fallacy": an unsound argument might have a conclusion that's true for other reasons. An example would be figuring that 16/64 = 16/64 = 1/4.

The page on Appeal to Consequences has a revealing slip that made me smile:

Both of these arguments are fallacious because ... all they do is appeal to the consequences of belief in God.... Neither argument, though, provides any evidence for Santa's existence.

And some pure silliness that exemplifies the "post hoc" fallacy:

(1) Most people who are read the last rites die shortly afterwards.
Therefore:
(2) Priests are going around killing people with magic words!

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:07am

"Give peas a chance" -- I love it, Ruth!

Joan, I'm glad you read and appreciated my comment on humanistic Jewish views of the Sabbath. The idea of a day of rest for ordinary working people was a huge social reform!

Patricia, I saw an interview of Grumpy Cat (a.k.a. Tardar Sauce) and one of her humans. Yes, Grumpy Cat is a girl, and she's actually a very sweet and sociable kitty who was purring when the interviewer held her.

Thanks Melinda, Joan, and Ruth, I'm glad you like my visual response. Most things are better with cats! I'm lucky to have "inherited" a computer with Photoshop -- about half of which is over my head -- but you can do such things with many image editing programs, including the free "GIMP". I used the magic wand to "erase" the white dots, leaving them as transparent holes, then put the cat on a layer underneath.

(Photoshop geeks: I used a layer mask. Before using the magic wand, I'd tried selecting the dots all at once based on gray level, but that either got light bits of background or left jagged, aliased edges. If there were hundreds of dots I'd have worked out a more automatic method.)

Comment by Ian Mason on April 13, 2013 at 3:52am

Sorry to hear about Jerry, Felaine. I'm sure you'll be a great care giver for him.

I agree that it's a good thing to be science literate but I just can't manage it. Even if I do understand explanations I forget them again, sometimes within minutes. If numbers are involved then it's a waste of everyone's time. By the time the explanation's come to an end I've forgotten the beginning. Just let me revel in the arts and I'm happy.

 

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