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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Seeing Things (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 25. 2 Replies

TheraminTrees doesn't release videos very often these days,  but when he does, they are positive GEMS.  Most recent of his works is the following, wherein he dismantles some of the common rebuttals atheist get from believers when we assert our…Continue

Tags: seeing things, YouTube, TheraminTrees

Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15. 4 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

Tags: dispute at Hang With Friends

You'll NEVER Guess Who Just Showed Up on Mr. Deity!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 14. 11 Replies

I don't believe this one either, but ... well, here it is: And would you believe - Mr. D made me laugh!  RD, that is!Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Mr. Deity

Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 6. 20 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Seth Andrews' New Book, "Sacred Cows" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Feb 6. 7 Replies

For the last few podcasts, Seth Andrews has been alluding to a new literary effort he's been working on.  Well, the cat is out of the bag ... or perhaps I should say, the cow is out of the barn!  Seth's new opus is entitled: Sacred Cows: a…Continue

Tags: book, Sacred Cows, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

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Comment by Ian Mason on January 22, 2013 at 8:14pm

I've no idea who Molly Ivins was but I love the quote.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 22, 2013 at 8:06pm

Alan, Re:

Worse, though, and by a lot, was the closing benediction. I don't know anything about the minister who gave it, but even if he's the most lefty of lefties his rhetoric was all about without god we can't even recognize our own goodness, dignity, worthy neighbors, etc. Hearing that just flat burned my toast. I couldn't turn the damn TV off fast enough.

I didn't hear the closing benediction; I'd already left the room...looking for the bottle of TUMS after the President claimed he'd sworn an oath to a fictional monster.

Do they really believe that childish nonsense?  Or do they think we're stupid?

(I'm still growling...) 

Comment by sk8eycat on January 22, 2013 at 7:19pm

Joan, I loved Molly Ivins; I have a stack of her books by my bed to read when I'm fed up with everything else.  What I really loved was when she and Ann Richards would get together on a panel discussion or something...they were a fantastic ad lib comedy team.

I miss them both.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on January 22, 2013 at 5:34pm

Joan, the Edward Current video, "What If God Disappeared?" is parody, poe, sarcasm, comedy, etc.  Mr. Current is a semi-well known YouTube video maker who mocks religion in a very dry and sarcastic tone while playing the character of a chrstian.  What can I say?  You've been duped. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 5:00pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 4:48pm

"No great idea in its beginning can ever be within the law. How can it be within the law? The law is stationary. The law is fixed. The law is a chariot wheel which binds us all regardless of conditions or place or time."

Emma Goldman 
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/emma_goldman.html#9Ctqz...

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 4:43pm

"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority."

~ Molly Ivins, 1944-2007

Comment by Ian Mason on January 22, 2013 at 3:11pm

Well said, Joan. Spot on. "A hit. A very palpable hit."

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 3:11pm

OK, it is confession time. I did not watch the inaugural speech of President Obama because he always says exactly the correct words that I want to hear, except he has avoided climate change and getting off fossil fuels far too long. 

The day of his first inaugural, he named his cabinet, all Wall Streeters. 

Just last month he named another Wall Streeter to replace Geithner. If he were going to change his philosophy, he would have named someone who included the needs of the working class as his advisors. 

I will watch closely what he does. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 2:59pm

Grinning Cat"What if God Disappeared?" by Edward Current.) My response:

Oh my goodness, Mr. Current, you have got to be writing sarcasm. “What if god disappears?” is about as foolish a statement as I have read. You are silly! Ludicrous!

 

“What would the world be like if god disappeared?”

Earth would remain the stunningly beautiful planet where life evolved from a single cell into the planet with water and flora and fauna and incredibly rich resources that brings us all we need to be healthy. We don’t have to invent the air, fire, water, and soil in order to survive; it is all here to use and to care for.

 

“If god disappeared we would instantly feel a huge void in our hearts.”

Perhaps you would, however there are legions of people who see no evidence of god in our experiences and certainly, your testimony provides evidence of shallowness of faith in a non-existent being. To have to create a god to feel “filled” reveals self-disrespect.

 

“We would feel empty, hopeless, desperate, like atheists feel today.”

Oh, my dear fellow, atheists feel exactly the opposite of what you describe. Your judgment and condemnation says more about you than it does about any atheist I know.

 

“If god disappeared missionaries in Africa and New Orleans would have no reason to help victims of malaria, AIDS and Hurricane Katrina.”

What about the missionaries in Africa who enabled the plunder of people and resources of those fine people; or who used the cruelest methods possible to cause submission of a proud people? Make them poor and then send missionaries to give them a spoon full of gruel and brag about it to the world. Do you brag about cutting off arms and legs of children and women whose men did not bring in enough rubber, or coal, or gold, or diamonds?

What about the exploitation of blacks by whites, creating a slave class and then maintaining a poverty class based on race. Are you proud of that history?

 

“The missionaries couldn’t benefit in the afterlife if they couldn’t do their work.”
Excuse me! Whites created the poverty of blacks by owning them as slaves and then keeping them down with fictional tales read from Bronze Age writings that condone slavery, plunder, rape, and murder because it pleases their god. Create poverty and then blame the victim for being poor. How foolish can one person be?

 

“If god disappeared there would be no reason to pray.”

Well, at least you have that correct. If there were no god, there would be no one to hear your prayers, no one to rescue you or reward you or punish you, and you would have to take responsibility for your own actions and have no redeemer to rescue you at the last minute before you die. Just imagine, you would be in heaven with other liars, thieves, rapists and murderers who were forgiven at the last breath. That is too easy!

 

“Success and failure in life would depend only on hard work and luck.”

I beg your pardon; are you telling me that the only people who succeed are those who believe in and have faith in an idea born of the Stone Age. We did not leave the Stone Age because we ran out of stones, we learned how to make and use tools and those made it possible to increase productivity and develop treatment for illness and injury. Your god is too small.

 

I have gone only 1:09 minutes into your foolishness and you can begin to see that I do not agree with you and I will not remain silent in the face of your ignorance, foolishness, or corruption.

 

Joan Denoo, 2013-01-22

 

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