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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner May 6. 82 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Dominique Lutz Apr 16. 6 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

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The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Mar 29. 3 Replies

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling"the internet is a lifeline for people trapped in the most restrictive and stifling forms of…Continue

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Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 24. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

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Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 15. 3 Replies

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline"Populations of Eel-like lamprey have suddenly plummeted since the year 2000 in the Columbia Basin, surprising…Continue

Richard Dawkins, Growing Up in the Universe

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 14. 2 Replies

Here is an oldie, the young Richard Dawkins teaching kids about the universe. I especially like the one demonstrating how the eye evolved. This should answer those who believe it was impossible to evolve an eye. Continue

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Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:53am

In Ex-Adventists, Jen Phoenix shares an "awesome" website listing and explaining logical fallacies: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

It turns out arguments for belief in God are well represented in the examples! There's also a bad argument or two for nonbelief -- but we shouldn't forget the "fallacist's fallacy": an unsound argument might have a conclusion that's true for other reasons. An example would be figuring that 16/64 = 16/64 = 1/4.

The page on Appeal to Consequences has a revealing slip that made me smile:

Both of these arguments are fallacious because ... all they do is appeal to the consequences of belief in God.... Neither argument, though, provides any evidence for Santa's existence.

And some pure silliness that exemplifies the "post hoc" fallacy:

(1) Most people who are read the last rites die shortly afterwards.
Therefore:
(2) Priests are going around killing people with magic words!

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:07am

"Give peas a chance" -- I love it, Ruth!

Joan, I'm glad you read and appreciated my comment on humanistic Jewish views of the Sabbath. The idea of a day of rest for ordinary working people was a huge social reform!

Patricia, I saw an interview of Grumpy Cat (a.k.a. Tardar Sauce) and one of her humans. Yes, Grumpy Cat is a girl, and she's actually a very sweet and sociable kitty who was purring when the interviewer held her.

Thanks Melinda, Joan, and Ruth, I'm glad you like my visual response. Most things are better with cats! I'm lucky to have "inherited" a computer with Photoshop -- about half of which is over my head -- but you can do such things with many image editing programs, including the free "GIMP". I used the magic wand to "erase" the white dots, leaving them as transparent holes, then put the cat on a layer underneath.

(Photoshop geeks: I used a layer mask. Before using the magic wand, I'd tried selecting the dots all at once based on gray level, but that either got light bits of background or left jagged, aliased edges. If there were hundreds of dots I'd have worked out a more automatic method.)

Comment by Ian Mason on April 13, 2013 at 3:52am

Sorry to hear about Jerry, Felaine. I'm sure you'll be a great care giver for him.

I agree that it's a good thing to be science literate but I just can't manage it. Even if I do understand explanations I forget them again, sometimes within minutes. If numbers are involved then it's a waste of everyone's time. By the time the explanation's come to an end I've forgotten the beginning. Just let me revel in the arts and I'm happy.

Comment by Plinius on April 13, 2013 at 1:01am

Prednizone when it's cancer? A few years ago my vet told me that prednizone can also boost cancer growth. Thinking of you and Jerry, Sk8eycat!

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 13, 2013 at 12:14am

GrinningCat, that's great! Quite an improvement.

Sorry to hear about your cat Jerry, sk8eycat. We're with you. Spoil him. Great Big Bird. Finally relevant to today.

Thanks for the video, Joan. I like "If you're scientifically literate,the world looks very different to you." This is such a profound and pervasive difference. One which I routinely failed to communicate to my students, despite my best efforts. "Science is the poetry of reality." is nice too.

LOL, Steph. Grumplestilksin! Give peas a chance! Thanks for cheering up my bedtime.

Booklover, sorry to hear about Dale's brush phobia. Have you tried one of those gloves with little rubbery things?

Hugs to all.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 12, 2013 at 10:48pm
Grinning Cat, I like your comment, "Many humanistic Jews, while rejecting "god said so" or "the rabbis said so", find value in the Sabbath as a time to "rest" from trying to dominate and control the world and other people, and appreciate who and what we have. It also asserts that time off isn't just for the rich, and that our dignity is based on more than our jobs and paychecks."

Sounds good to me.
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 12, 2013 at 10:13pm

Grinning Cat, That is a wonderful idea. You are so clever. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 12, 2013 at 9:18pm

I couldn't resist:

Comment by Steph S. on April 12, 2013 at 8:14pm

sk8eycat so sorry to hear about your beloved Harry Jerry. I hope the medication helps. You are in our thoughts.

Yes, hugs to both of you.

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 12, 2013 at 8:05pm

Felaine, sorry to hear about Hairy Jerry! Please accept some hugs for both of you. He certainly couldn't ask for a better human to help him through a difficult end of life.

 

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