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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Soren Sagan 10 hours ago. 9 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

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Finding Your Roots

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Chris G on Tuesday. 9 Replies

I've been into genealogy for a long time. It's fun, especially with internet help, but increasingly frustrating. You see, I've hit "brick walls". And being a Smith doesn't make research any easier.Wouldn't you think I could find the death date and…Continue

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by sk8eycat on Friday. 11 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

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Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by sk8eycat Nov 26. 41 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

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Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 24. 4 Replies

I'm not a news hound by any stretch, but I do like to stay informed about what's going on in the world. (I despise "local" news with all the reports of murders, robberies, fires, etc.)The national "evening" news shows really irritate me. I hate…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2013 at 10:56pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2013 at 10:23pm

sk8eycat, you write, "I am so passionate about keeping religion out of politics" reveals that you have understanding about the long range consequences of mixing the two. 

Remember the physician, Dr. Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis, who realized doctors were infecting their patients with some unseen infections and tried to convince them to wash their hands between touching those who are sick. His colleagues laughed at him and called him insane. The poor man was committed to an asylum, where he died at age 47 after being beaten by the guards, only 14 days after he was committed.

Or remember the geologist, J Harlen Bretz, who published research papers in 1923 theorizing water caused the landforms in eastern and southern Washington state, even though there was no evidence of water that could have done it. Other geologists laughed at him and dismissed him. A man by the name of Joseph T. Pardee knew where the water came from. It wasn't until mid-1950s Bretz’s interpretations could no longer be ignored, and the geology society accepted his theory.

We are, today, at the place where people do not recognize the risk of mixing church and state. Either they don't remember history, or they believe some superpower will come to our rescue, or their economic futures are tied to the value of using religion to control the public. 

Observe the evidence; it is clear what side of the fence you are on and even if you stand alone, you are correct. 

Comment by Steph S. on April 27, 2013 at 10:07pm

I would rather have no friends than the wrong type of friends.

Comment by Steph S. on April 27, 2013 at 10:07pm

Actually Ruth you have it right. I would advise Melinda the same way, and like you I don't have any real life friends- just friends here on the site. Just the online type friend.

Comment by Steph S. on April 27, 2013 at 10:05pm

Yes, sk8eycat I have encountered apathy toward religion in politics and daily life. Usually I hear; "Why can't you just leave people alone?"

Comment by sk8eycat on April 27, 2013 at 9:25pm

I've been working on my little Pet Press job, witha grumpy computer...aaarrgh!...so I haven't been keeping up with the discussions in here...except for a little bit.

I have a question: One of my best friends is tending toward atheism, but she just doesn't understand why I am so passionate about keeping religion out of politics.  Her attitude toward religion could be described as indifference, while mine is more like disgust.  Has anybody else encountered this attitude of "Why do you care? Why don't you just ignore it?"

I have said that I love my country, and am appalled at all the "god blessing" that comes out of the mouths of people who are supposed to represent me.  I'm also frightend by the dominionists; they have come very close to taking over (with a faith-based office in the White House, for one thing) a few times, and if we don't wake up and do something about them ....well...

The only encouraging news is the growing numbers of "nones" in the last 15 years or so. But I just don't understand indifference.

Anybody got any comments?

Comment by booklover on April 27, 2013 at 8:49pm

Thanks for the advice Ruth!  I feel like you do about the flesh and blood friends.  I like you guys on here much better!  I do have a couple of Atheist and Agnostic friends that I do have coffee with occasionally.  I also have my Mom, and we literally agree on EVERYTHING.  She is 70, and I hope she lives 30 more years!!!!  With health problems, and getting older (ME), I just don't have the time or energy or drive to deal with making plans with friends, especially when I no longer have things in common with them!  The one militantly Atheist friend I have is also extremely left-wing liberal, as am I, so we can freely discuss anything without hesitation.  I do enjoy visiting each other maybe every other week, during the afternoon, for about 2 hours!  That's been our way for a few years, and so I do get out a little socially.  There is another lady we invite who is maybe not quite as "radical" as we are, but it's comfortable with her there too. :)

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 27, 2013 at 8:33pm

Melinda, you might consider cultivating one or two new friendships,  people with whom you share common interests, whose lives don't revolve around religion. Then tell your old friend that you don't feel compatible with her any more, that you've drifted apart. I wouldn't lie, even a white lie about alcohol. I'd tell her how you actually feel when people talk about religion. Be clear that you still respect her and don't think badly of her, it's that particular behavior you can no longer abide.  Say it's not her, that you've changed. Well that's what I'd try. It's best not to cut yourself off socially, keep some friends in your life. This is a "Do as I say, not as I do", because I really haven't got any flesh and blood friends. I got bored with them, or I changed my interests, or they aged out (groups became too young for common interest), or the drive got too long for me. Perhaps I'm not the best person to advise on friendship.

Comment by booklover on April 27, 2013 at 7:50pm

Comment by booklover on April 27, 2013 at 7:48pm

I love the Red Hatters Joan!  Thanks Megan, yeah, it is a tough situation.  I want to get out of it without hurt feelings.  This is my plan.  She knows I have awful gastro issues, and that I see a specialist.  Even last night with 2 beers I had to take a handful of Tums.  I'm just going to say I can't drink anymore, which isn't totally the truth, but I drink so little ever anyway.  She is a big drinker, and she likes going out for drinks.  Maybe if I just sit there with a Diet Coke, she won't think I'm so much fun.  If there's really nothing to talk about anymore, maybe she won't ask me to go out.  Her life is SO hectic, and mine is SO not, that she is always the one to plan the get-togethers.  Not very straight-forward of me, but a plan that might cause less hurt feelings.

 

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