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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 21. 81 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Dominique Lutz Apr 16. 6 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

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The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Mar 29. 3 Replies

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling"the internet is a lifeline for people trapped in the most restrictive and stifling forms of…Continue

Tags: Warren Jeff, internet, FLDS

Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 24. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

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Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 15. 3 Replies

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline"Populations of Eel-like lamprey have suddenly plummeted since the year 2000 in the Columbia Basin, surprising…Continue

Richard Dawkins, Growing Up in the Universe

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 14. 2 Replies

Here is an oldie, the young Richard Dawkins teaching kids about the universe. I especially like the one demonstrating how the eye evolved. This should answer those who believe it was impossible to evolve an eye. Continue

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 25, 2013 at 12:49pm

I'm somewhat cynical of the American Revolution described by Grace Lee Boggs. Even if there are more than a million small, barely visible, self-healing civic groups across the world which combine spiritual growth with practical action in their lives, its sounds vague, fragmented and anti-scientific to me.

"Many of these groups are inspired by a philosophy that replaces the scientific and reductive rationalism of seventeenth-century Western male philosophers (such as Descartes and Bacon) with the ways of knowing of Indigenous Peoples (which includes the perceptions of trees and animals) and of women, based on intimate connections with Nature and ideas of healing and caring that were part of European village culture prior to the sixteenth- and seventeenth-century ..." "... , most of us carry on this cultural revolution in our own way. For example, a doctor may decide to practice alternative medicine." source

The idea that retreat to indigenous people's knowledge and sixteenth century village culture can somehow topple the power of huge multinational corporations comes across to me as reactive rather than a bold new vision to manage the planet sustainably. How does this constructively address global overpopulation? How does it rethink large scale reorganization of economics, production, and consumption for a viable alternative to megacorporation-run globalization? Climate Destabilization is a global problem which will not be solved by local thinking and action alone, even if the locals are in touch via the internet. What I read in her first chapter sounds like idealization of earlier forms such as local agriculture. What worked well in the sixteenth century will not work at all in a hellish 6°C hotter planet.

While the values of closeness to nature will be an essential part of any sustainable culture, for me there's too much missing in this vision for me to buy into it.

Sorry, Joan.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 2:57am

Thanks Spud. I have some problems at both ends, and have good RX to quell the discomfort. I feel great, Was a bit weepy this morning and so dripped a little, but it went away as soon as I started reading comments on Atheist Nexus. I feel strong. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 2:53am

Tom, I'm reading. I want to know what they pay in taxes. Do you have figures?

Comment by tom sarbeck on May 25, 2013 at 2:04am

If you want to see some Democratic dogma, continue reading.

Where do corporations get the money to pay taxes on income?

Do they reduce the interest they pay to stock owners?

Do they raise the prices their customers pay?

Both of the above?

Somewhere else?

Do you want taxpayers to know what they pay in taxes?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 1:21am

Patricia, I can't wait to see your remodel. What an exciting thing to have happening. We will celebrate with you in a virtual house warming. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 1:17am

This is the kind of Jaunting Cart I rode for two days in Killarney, Ireland, with an old Irish gentleman. I visited schools, hospitals, day care centers, old folks homes, and interviewed some of his relatives who were peasant people. Even though we did some sightseeing, I was not interested in the English estates or castles. I wanted to see workers' cottages, farms, and we ate in non-tourist Irish pubs. It was quite an experience. He was an Irish loyalist, through and through and so a perfect guide for my interests. He told me of the Irish famine and how his ancestors survived. A horrid story of greed, tyranny, and exploitation of the Irish. The famine was a political famine. There was plenty of food available, and the British owned the soil. Any poaching resulted in hanging. 

Killarney Jaunting Cart like I rode for two days doing my research. 

The Irish famine: Opening old wounds
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2012/12/irish-famine

The Graves Are Walking
http://us.macmillan.com/thegravesarewalking/JohnKelly

The Famine Plot
http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?pid=485515

Killarney Jaunting Carts and scenes from Google

Comment by Ian Mason on May 25, 2013 at 12:53am

Very good words, Joan. There are too many petty dictators in the world and so many people that need a helping hand to escape from them.

Patricia, I hope your house is soon fully dressed in its new wardrobe. What colour are houses wearing this Spring?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 12:06am

Grace Lee Boggs. This is a woman for our time. She has a message that must be echoed down the streets and highways of our nation. 

Grace Lee Boggs in Los Angeles

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 24, 2013 at 11:55pm

Joan, that graph's a stunning display of how corporations have evaded responsibility in the US. And every Republican bill that pretends to lower taxes is another way to limit their contribution even further. As the article says

"Another thing we can get mad about is how the "corporate tax reform" that Cook and other corporate leaders are always banging on about will actually serve to make it so companies pay even less in taxes than they do now."

What? There's no quote button in comments now? *ack*

I loved the ducks learning to love water video. Thanks!

Take good care of yourself. *HUG*

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 10:42pm

If you don't know how to read a chart, find someone to teach you. If you don't have time, make time. 

If you have more important things to do, you are a fool. 

The 1 Chart That Reveals Just How Grossly Unfair The U.S. Tax Syste...

 

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