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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

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Seeing Things (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner yesterday. 2 Replies

TheraminTrees doesn't release videos very often these days,  but when he does, they are positive GEMS.  Most recent of his works is the following, wherein he dismantles some of the common rebuttals atheist get from believers when we assert our…Continue

Tags: seeing things, YouTube, TheraminTrees

Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15. 4 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

Tags: dispute at Hang With Friends

You'll NEVER Guess Who Just Showed Up on Mr. Deity!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 14. 11 Replies

I don't believe this one either, but ... well, here it is: And would you believe - Mr. D made me laugh!  RD, that is!Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Mr. Deity

Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 6. 20 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Seth Andrews' New Book, "Sacred Cows" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Feb 6. 7 Replies

For the last few podcasts, Seth Andrews has been alluding to a new literary effort he's been working on.  Well, the cat is out of the bag ... or perhaps I should say, the cow is out of the barn!  Seth's new opus is entitled: Sacred Cows: a…Continue

Tags: book, Sacred Cows, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 10:39pm

Beach at Jökulsárlón glacial lagoon in Iceland , during sunrise  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=480504815300765&set=a.4....

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 10:31pm

Brandi, I agree that control plays a huge part in all this. I can remember thinking, "How am I supposed to do this ...?" And when the shift occurred, it was more like, "Here is the problem as I understand it; what are my options? What has the highest probability of getting what I need or want? Taking action and paying attention to the consequences. With this way of thinking, I feel strong, competent, have self-respect, and don't have to look to others for affirmation. 

Carl has provided me with so many insights over the months and is a real treasure of a friend. Thanks Carl. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 10:22pm
Carl, how different your family was than mine. One cousin's daughter is a lesbian; she and her partner had three children with a male friend. Those kids are almost grown now and the greatest family I can ever remember. For so many years it was a secret until they decided to have a family. My family was in such a tither, we can only laugh about it now. Another cousin has a gay son and one day he told his parents. My cousin and his wife laughed and told him they had known it for years. My divorce and their homosexuality were extreme violations of the family's value systems ... and they all survived our "sins".
It seems to me the most important thing about families is to provide an environment whereby each one can be his/her own being, living his/her lifestyle that fits his/her values.
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:52pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:46pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:44pm

 “There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”

~ Daniel Dennett 

Philosophy That Stirs the Waters

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 29, 2013 at 9:40pm

Joan, in response to your earlier post about me you mused, "I assume you, too, had to search for principles upon which you could build your life."  I never really searched for principles (or a philosophy per say) to live my life.  Rather, I'd say that my parents instilled a level of morality and ethics into me and my three siblings that I grew to learn had a degree of integrity that I could be proud of and happy to use as a guide.  At the same time I lived as closely as I could to being the true me, albeit with one major exception.....I was closeted to others about my already self-known homosexuality, not that I thought there was anything wrong with me, but out of embarrassment and fear of negative reactions.  But during my entire childhood I did manage to march to the beat of my own unique drum, and my family and I can still laugh about some of my eccentric and memorable episodes to this day.  

I started questioning religion during my high school years and definitely had an atheistic view cemented during my college years.  All these years since, I've led my life according to principles given to me by my parents and but also by my own moral standard taught to me through experience.  I'll be 49 this year but it was fairly recently, about five or six years ago, when I was reading about something I had never heard of, Secular Humanism, when the light bulb went off in my head and I experienced a revelation.  I was everything a Secular Humanist was!!  I didn't go searching for a philosophy, I kind of stumbled upon a label that described who I already was.

I would venture to say that if all you took away just one aspect from my parents, their religion, you'd be left with two people who are Secular Humanists.    

Comment by sk8eycat on April 29, 2013 at 7:55pm

I forgot to mention one of the main things that exploded in my brain when I was reading the buybull, and really thinking about what I was reading.  I have always been fascinated by all the sciences, but didn't have the math background or ability to get into college and major in one of them (and I was madly in love with skating until it started to hurt).  I have always wanted to know the TRUTH about everything.  I was still reading Genesis when I realized everything in it was written by flat-earthers, and stuff like Noah's Flood were physically impossible. At that point I began deliberately looking for other impossibilities.  At that time I wasn't aware of all the scholarly books and articles going back to the Enlightenment about the fact that the basis of Judaism and Islam, Abraham, was probably a myth, that archaeological evidence for the Exodus does not exist, and there is nothing written by either Jewish or Roman historians mentioning the crucificxion of a rabble-rousing rabbi during Passover.

(Nor was I aware then that the Sanhedrin would never have tried anybody for any religious "crime" during Passover. And they certainly would not have taken the matter to the Roman governor, and insisted that he order the execution of the "criminal.")

BUT by the time I got halfway through Revelation I was wondering what drugs the writer was on.  That was in the mid 1960s, and pot and LSD were beginning to make the rounds....  Ergot, or ergotamine was known, and used, for millennia in Rome and Egypt.

Anyway, I realized I had been reading and trying to believe fiction. And it wasn't nearly as much fun as Dick Francis' horse-racing mysteries...or even Perry Mason.  So I said, "Phphphbtbtbtttt!" And quit trying to force a triangular (the Trinity) block into a circular-reasoned orifice.

It took Heinlein's STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND to make me "get" that communion is symbolic cannibaliam. Gag me with a spoon, Mary!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 7:14pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 6:32pm

"The streets of Amsterdam are awash in the color orange in honor of the Netherlands' ruling House of Oranje-Nassau, as officials prepare for a once-in-a-generation rotation of royal titles — and the rest of the country gets ready to party."

"Tuesday, Queen Beatrix is to abdicate, Willem-Alexander become king, and his 9-year-old daughter Princess Catharina-Amalia become crown princess."

 

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