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Oklahoma Tornado
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Loren Miller 15 minutes ago. 2 Replies 0 Likes
An amazing photo of the tornado's power,Continue
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'Crazy ants' a threat in southern U.S.
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Oh no! Crazy ants!!CNN) -- Beware the "crazy…Continue
10 Things You Can't Do and Become President
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This was a fun article to read.When…Continue
Girl Recovered After 10 Years Claimed Dead by Psychic
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Psychics are all BS.Here's an interesting news article.Amanda Berry, a…Continue
Brutal 4 Minutes for All of Religion Christopher Hitchens
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Brutal 4 Minutes for All of Religion Christopher HitchensJust think about this for a minute, “three thousand years ago, at the most, it was decided,…Continue
Talented young singer
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by booklover May 14. 3 Replies 0 Likes
Aldrich Lloyd Talonding is going to take the world by storm. What do you think? He's singing Dance With My Father Again. Continue
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Comment by sk8eycat on July 29, 2012 at 11:28am -
Joan, Sorry I didn't answer right away. I'm having major computer problems. In order to afford getting a tech to clean my hard drive, I'm going to have to sell my car....which I haven't driven in months , anyway.
Yes. That's the Gorey cat & books drawing.
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Comment by booklover on July 29, 2012 at 9:22am -
Very true. Stupid is scary.
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Comment by Idaho Spud on July 29, 2012 at 6:38am -
Kissing Hank's Ass is a great bit of satire (is that the right word?), and written so even I can understand it.
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Comment by Chris Breman on July 29, 2012 at 12:27am
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Comment by Ian Mason on July 28, 2012 at 9:57pm -
A good list, Joan. Solid common sense. And thanks for the link, GC. I'm off to read the whole thing now.
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Comment by Grinning Cat on July 28, 2012 at 9:24pm -
Joan, thanks for the list! While religions do vary quite a bit in the harmfulness of the beliefs, the encouragement of faith based on untestable, unverifiable, strictly subjective claims is troublesome. So is the reliance on circular reasoning.
Which reminds me of Jim Huber's excellent parable "Kissing Hank's Ass", which many people here have hopefully seen. The whole thing is two pages; here are some snippets. A well-dressed couple shows up at the door, inviting the narrator to kiss Hank's ass with them...John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the shit out of you."
Me: "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"
John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."
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John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"
Me: "We do?"
Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."
Me: "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"
John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."
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Comment by booklover on July 28, 2012 at 9:09pm
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Love the cat in the hoodie pic Tony! And Joan, I love your list!
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Comment by Steph S. on July 28, 2012 at 8:03pm -
What a cute cat Lol you posted Tony!
I love it!
I'll have to copy that picture - and all the others ones posted here of course.
Thanks for your list Joan - I agree.
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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 28, 2012 at 8:01pm -
Things that prevent me from believing in a god, any god:
1. The imperative to submit, obey, follow teachings with which I do not agree.
2. Perception of some as more human than others.
3. A hierarchical system that places a god at the top to be obeyed: males, preference for a specific race (Jewish, Anglo-S or Muslim) and women and children perceived as chattel.
4. Claims about miracles that defy natural laws of physics and depend on faith and belief.
5. Defenses to back up their claims using untestable, unmeasurable, unverifiable rationale.
6. Justification by using circular thinking: god, yahweh, allah authored scripture; scripture describes god's, yahwey's, allah's imperitives.
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Comment by Tony Carroll on July 28, 2012 at 7:50pm -
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