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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jan 22. 13 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

Twin terrorists caught

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jan 11. 7 Replies

Canada: twin terrorists caught before going to Mideast Saturday, January 10, 2015 By Martin Barillas L-R: Carlos and Ashton Larmond The Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrested and charged a pair of 24-year-old identical twin brothers on…Continue

Betty Bowers Best of 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 4. 33 Replies

Happy New Year, everyone!  Now that we're off on another 365-day stint of sniping at believers, leave it to America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, to sum up the year past from her holier-than-EVERYBODY point of view! Have You had YOUR Betty today?!?Continue

Tags: 2014, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by booklover Dec 28, 2014. 23 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2014. 11 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 26, 2013 at 3:58pm

Mindy, your cartoon didn't come onto my wall, but I was able to retrieve it in the email. 

Now here is an interesting situation. You are a guest in someone else's home; they give a blessing, my decision is to not close my eyes, not bow my head and not say "Amen". 

If I am the host, especially if children are at my table, I offer thanks to the farmers or gardeners who grew the food, and the source of grocer or farmers market. No heads bowed, no eyes closed, no amens. 

Sometimes I am questioned if that is a prayer and I respond that it is a statement of appreciation for all those who made our meal possible. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 26, 2013 at 3:31pm

The key element here, in both your cases, is you want to maintain relationships with the ones with whom you set limits. That is the appropriate, healthy and responsible thing to do. 

For myself, I have heard all the religion for more than one lifetime; I don't need any more information, I need to be free of the entanglement that happens when loved ones want me to be saved. I made the decision to set limits, if my conditions are violated, I block their communication and not seek to participate with them. 

Funny thing, I have talked about this before, most of the people that I blocked because they stepped over the line I set, have sought contact with me. I reassure them I am available if religion does not invade our relationships. If they have difficulty sorting out their feelings and needs, I can help them sort; I need no proselytizing. 

Whatever you decide, and for whatever reason, it is up to you to decide for you. Your decision is no one else's business.

If one feels stuck in a relationship that violates one's limits, that indicates there are mixed needs. Those internal conflicts need to be sorted out, a decision made, and then one is not a victim.  

Comment by booklover on November 26, 2013 at 3:10pm

Comment by booklover on November 26, 2013 at 3:09pm

Patricia, your husband sounds like mine.  I have to do this with my sister and her husband.  She claims to not be an xtian anymore, just believes there is a gawd.  HE KNOWS there is one, he's prejudiced against non-whites (Doesn't claim to be, just talks like he is and makes me FURIOUS), and he's FAR RIGHT -WING.  YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  He's good to my sister and niece and nephew, and I want a relationship with them, so it's a GOOD THING we don't live in the same city and see each other very often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 26, 2013 at 2:52pm

Patricia, I am happy to learn you have time to investigate which computer will work best for you. There are lots of brands from which to choose. I look forward to learning what you decide. 

Have to keep these lines open to chat with this group. Never boring, always enlightening, and very often fun. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 26, 2013 at 2:49pm

Patricia, sounds as though you make a very responsible decision in this case. You want to keep the relationship with your daughter and grandchild and in order to do that you have to set limits on subject matter.

Good for you. You are not the villain in this situation; you know what you know and what you need. Taking care of yourself is essential for mental health. Listening to or participating in a conversation, such as religion, with them is of no interest to you and your line should be drawn. 

If you don't have choices, you become a victim. Because you do have choices, and because you have drawn the line, you are not a victim. You are a decent, wise and compassionate person. 

I support you 100%.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 26, 2013 at 1:47pm

@Patricia, I asked Laura her recommendation and here is her response: 

"It sounds like your friend is at the point I was at in 2007 when I was "so done" with Microsoft computers. If she is interested in switching to Apple, the type of computer depends on her needs. Does she need portable or not. If portability is important to her then a Macbook is the way to go. If portability is not important then an iMac is a wonderful solution." Laura

Keep in mind that Laura has her own business designing web pages for professionals, her husband builds network systems for professionals. They have lots of experiences and knowledge. 

I hope you find what is right for you. I have MacBook that I use every day, an iMac that I use for designing/creating albums, and I still have an ancient Microsoft that I never use. It has old documents from years ago.  

Comment by booklover on November 26, 2013 at 1:46pm

SILENCE IMPLIES AGREEMENT!  ~ I agree Joan!

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 26, 2013 at 10:31am

SILENCE IMPLIES AGREEMENT! 

Comment by booklover on November 26, 2013 at 9:10am

I love the pigeon picture Steph, and I stole the "off is a t.v. channel."  That's great! lol. 

I think people's tastes change as they age.  I mean literally.  I used to LOVE sweet.  Lots and lots of it.  I can't take it anymore.  My Mom said sweet doesn't appeal to her at all anymore.  My son LOVES sour.  Sour candy, sour anything. 

 

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