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Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jan 22. 13 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

Twin terrorists caught

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jan 11. 7 Replies

Canada: twin terrorists caught before going to Mideast Saturday, January 10, 2015 By Martin Barillas L-R: Carlos and Ashton Larmond The Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrested and charged a pair of 24-year-old identical twin brothers on…Continue

Betty Bowers Best of 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 4. 33 Replies

Happy New Year, everyone!  Now that we're off on another 365-day stint of sniping at believers, leave it to America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, to sum up the year past from her holier-than-EVERYBODY point of view! Have You had YOUR Betty today?!?Continue

Tags: 2014, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by booklover Dec 28, 2014. 23 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2014. 11 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by sk8eycat on August 28, 2014 at 12:30am

Can you post, "Nothing Fails Like Prayer," and get away with it? That is a quote by Anne Nicol Gaylor, co-founder of the Freedom From Religion Foundation. 

I made it the log-on password for the MacBook that I still haven't learned to use.  I want to see my JW sister's face when I tell her that's what she has to type to turn the thing on.  LMAO

Comment by booklover on August 27, 2014 at 11:48pm
EXACTLY, Patricia! Fucking "prayer warriors," and "god is good, all the time, all the time, god is good." What a load of crap!!!!!!!!
Comment by booklover on August 27, 2014 at 11:31pm
A woman that went to my high school (5 years behind me) died tonight. So Dhe was 42. A lawyer, and the head of all things to do with Alumni from our school. Her car had been hit by 3 robbers, running from the police. They are all alive. Facebook exploded the other day when she was in the hospital with all the "prayer warriors" and "prayer chains" from our old school. Blah blah blah. It did NOTHING, of course. Now Facebook is filled with, god gained another angel tonight, and "she is in a better place," etc. even one of my old teachers was on there with that bullshit.
Do they not see how all that begging did NOTHING?!?! She died anyway! Now they ignore that, and start in on the "god had other plans for her" shit. WHY CANT THEY SEE THAT'S CRAZY!!!!!! They begged, their god said NO. I almost can't stand the idiocy! I wish I had the nerve to say it on there and not care that anyone who was on there knows I think that's insane.
I just messaged my sister and said see? That's why I can see there is no " god" and praying does jack- shit. She just put XO and a heart. She won't argue or debate me. She was raised by an Atheist just like Si was.
Sorry for rambling. I didn't know the woman, but from what I had read, she was a really neat person.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 27, 2014 at 6:50pm

IMHO, there is no such thing as an "illegitimate" baby or child, it puts a brand on the child and for no good reason. There are some single women who make excellent parents and build strong family ties. There are some dreadful married parents that neglect, spoil, or abuse their children and create dysfunctional families. The child has nothing to do with it. 

The notion of legitimacy has to do with rights of inheritance. Yes! the old money question pops up in the historical records of legitimacy. Older laws punished both the parents and the child/ren, based on "morality" issues. After 1920, it became a way of deciding if a child was entitled to any inheritance. 

Current laws have more to do with who will contribute to the monetary support of a child. 

"The first major breakthrough for children born to unwed parents came when the Legitimacy Act of 1926 was passed. This granted legitimacy to all children who had parents that married at a later date, as long as the parents would have been legally able to marry at the time of the child's conception. This law was to be updated three more times. The final version of it was passed in 1987 and abolished all remaining laws that favored legitimate children over illegitimate ones, except concerning royal hereditary titles or citizenship status."

Lots more information available:

History Legitimacy Overview

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 27, 2014 at 3:19pm

k.h., that is funny! And I'm confident that your father's a human, not an android! (Looks like an autocowreck snuck into your comment.)

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 27, 2014 at 3:02pm

That's funny Kathy.

Comment by k.h. ky on August 27, 2014 at 2:41pm
Spud, my fathers occupation, on my birth certificate, is listed as 'hooker'. I kid you not! He worked for the railroad at the time android his job was hooking the railcars together.
Comment by Plinius on August 27, 2014 at 2:33pm

Yes, of course you're right. It's that I don't know what system you use. Here you get a birth certificate with names of parents - if the names are known - perhaps you can see from the names if they were married at the time or not, but what you think of it is your own business. A government calling a child illegitimate meddles in people's lives in an intolerable manner - yes, like a xtian would. To me illegitimate doesn't exist. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 27, 2014 at 11:50am

smacks of religion

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 27, 2014 at 11:47am

Chris, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like a religious question to me because I can't see why a secular government would care, or why it's any of their business.

I've read that the government does it to preserve stable family groupings.  That sounds like a good reason, but I still think religion is the reason the government is concerned with it.  

I think calling the child illegitimate is a stigma that shouldn't. be put on a child, and back in my day that child was denied inheritance and property rights.  I think there are still some restrictions on those children. 

The word and the unfair restrictions on an innocent child just smacks or religion to me.

 

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