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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner May 6. 82 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Dominique Lutz Apr 16. 6 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

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The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Mar 29. 3 Replies

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling"the internet is a lifeline for people trapped in the most restrictive and stifling forms of…Continue

Tags: Warren Jeff, internet, FLDS

Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 24. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

Tags: Yahweh, YouTube, 43alley, Non Stamp Collector

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 15. 3 Replies

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline"Populations of Eel-like lamprey have suddenly plummeted since the year 2000 in the Columbia Basin, surprising…Continue

Richard Dawkins, Growing Up in the Universe

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 14. 2 Replies

Here is an oldie, the young Richard Dawkins teaching kids about the universe. I especially like the one demonstrating how the eye evolved. This should answer those who believe it was impossible to evolve an eye. Continue

Tags: universe, teaching, Dawkins, Richard

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Comment by Ian Mason on June 18, 2014 at 11:33pm

Joan, I like Sisyphus because of the daily labour he represents for me and the strength to keep going with a task no matter how hopeless it seems and with no end in sight. That's what depression is like at its worst. And as you say, success is not the issue. The self-respect that comes from not giving up is. 

Comment by Loren Miller on June 18, 2014 at 8:37pm

Hey!  Betty Bowers did a QUICKIE!  No, not THAT kind of quickie!  A short video featuring the devil ... and some guy in red:

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2014 at 5:47pm

Ian, I like your symbolism of your memory being carried on through your child. The ankh and daughter's name provides such a good representation of that sentiment. 

Not everyone has children to carry on his or her memories, and even those of us who have children have no guarantee our children know us, especially if one has a history of helplessness or alcoholism.

The legacy one leaves behind is how one thinks and acts in the face of challenges. Were there hurdles one has to overcome? Was one successful in meeting obstructions, or at least making a great effort toward mastering them? 

Some people have no challenges to overcome; others have overwhelming obstacles. When I observe an individual who does not know how to solve problems or resolve conflicts, or who has an addiction that gets in the way of healthy living, and when I observe that person making efforts to overcome whatever is holding him or her back, I feel great sympathy and at the same time, great respect.

The test is not, does one have no problems confronting him or her, but does one take on the obstacle with critical thought and effective action?

Success is not the issue ... to take on the challenge with mind, body and emotion is where fine character lies. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2014 at 5:27pm

Ian, it is interesting you chose Sisyphus for the other side to represent daily labor against alcoholism and depression. 

Sisyphus did not win victory over his history, but paid the ultimate price of failing throughout all eternity. 

May I offer a Greek god, Zeus, who was victorious over his father who tried to destroy him. He became king of the gods and lived with his brothers and sisters on Mt Olympus. They did battle with Titans with strength restored by nectar “that which overcomes death” and ambrosia upon which the Olympians feasted perpetually. Zeus’ weapon was a thunderbolt and he was victorious over his adversaries. He became known as the dragon slayer, known to punish those that lie and break oaths. 

Zeus becomes a metaphor of one who overcomes adversaries, using his weapon, a thunderbolt to take on his demons.

Comment by Ian Mason on June 18, 2014 at 4:32pm

I've only got one tattoo, an ankh and my daughter's name, on my left (heart side) arm. For me, it represents living on through children, the only "immortality" we can have. I will have grandchildren's names added if and when they turn up. I'm also considering getting one of Sisyphus on the other side to represent my daily labour against alcoholism and depression. I'm quite happy about having them as they mean something to me, they're not some kind of decoration that I'll regret in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w90iTGBm2o

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 18, 2014 at 3:53pm

And I'm with Carl when it comes to tattoos. I've admired beautiful ones on other people, but for myself I'll pass -- too painful and too permanent.

(Hey... why don't more of the fundamentalist Christian god-botherers denounce tattoos? It violates the very same book of Leviticus they love to quote in other contexts.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2014 at 3:49pm

The year was 1959, Time magazine came out with an article about the African witch doctors that used eyes of newt, tails of lizard, bones of ancestors and slime from the brackish waters and danced around the person infected with some deadly diseases. 

Modern medicine came to the African countries to try to eradicate those awful diseases, and no one would come to them.

So, the western medicine people and the African elders got together and devised a scheme whereby the African medicine man would cast his magic spells over the suffering person and the western medicine man would do a differential  diagnosis, develop a treatment plan and administer modern medicine or techniques. The person who suffered got better, the African dignity was maintained and the modern methods did their job. Over time, the medicine man cast his approval on western medicine and he could bow out. It took years and it worked. 

My husband was in dental school at the U of WA and I wrote many of his papers for him. I had first hand knowledge of modern methods of diagnosis, treatment and prevention. I looked at the photos of African medicine man and women, their tattoos, their body piercings, and their magic and just decided I would not insult my body with tattoos or body piercings, nor would I accept, without skepticism, any medical technique.  

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 18, 2014 at 3:42pm

Tardigrades, the half-millimeter-long "water bears", do seem like something straight out of science fiction!

They "can withstand temperatures from just above absolute zero to well above the boiling point of water, pressures about six times greater than those found in the deepest ocean trenches, ionizing radiation at doses hundreds of times higher than the lethal dose for a human, and the vacuum of outer space. They can go without food or water for more than 10 years, drying out to the point where they are 3% or less water, only to rehydrate, forage, and reproduce."

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2014 at 3:37pm

Well, Mindy, this took a little searching and this is what you might mean 

tardigrade

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 18, 2014 at 1:05pm

I've never been a tattoo or piercing kind of person.  I'm not knocking it for other people, but for myself I can't think of anything that is so important in my life that I want a representation of it permanently enshrined on my skin.  I'm not into wearing rings, necklaces or jewelry either.

 

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