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Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Luara Apr 11. 7 Replies

Before you ask, no, I didn't write this.  I discovered it in a comment on a Discovermagazine.com piece which…Continue

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Curious: Has anyone read the novel "Christian Nation"?

Started by Brent Feeney. Last reply by Plinius Apr 10. 11 Replies

So I've been thinking about this some lately, and I wanted to see what your thoughts were:I read a novel last fall that was making the rounds of Atheist blogs and what not called "Christian Nation", which is part alternative history and part…Continue

Stop the Religious Right. Four Steps You Can Take, Sean Faircloth.

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Thanks to Grinning Cat via Loren Miller led me to this additional video by Sean Faircloth. He provides positive and powerful examples of thinking and acting. Continue

Science, Atheism & the Joyful Life -- by Sean Faircloth, Richard Dawkins Foundation

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 6 Replies

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Bedtime Bible Stories (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 8. 0 Replies

Uh, oh!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, is at it again, THIS time with bedtime stories!  Somehow with her retelling of some of the classics, I'm dubious that her versions would go over with the Brothers Grimm or Hans Christian Anderson,…Continue

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Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 10:05pm

Steph...what I did today: Took a friend to a local pub/restaurant (owned and operated by a Scottish/British  ex-pat family); I had Bangers & Mash, and I am so full I can hardly move.  Had a GREAT time!   *;) winking

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 10:01pm

For all I knew, the stories we were taught in Sunday school could have been written by Hans Christian Andersen or the Brothers Grimm. 

We started going to church when we moved to Burbank when I was in kindergarten. Dad wanted to establish himself quickly because he was planning to open his own accounting practice, and joining the local church was one way to do that.  It happened to be a very relaxed place, more into having community social events than telling us we were going to burn in hell.  Dad and the minister hit it off immediately, and the Rev. made him Treasurer...Rev. had been doing the books himself, and was overwhelmed.  Actually, we didn't call him "Reverend" anything... he was Mister to everybody.  (Well, he was "Art" or "Arthur" to the grownups.)

I think I was in 4th or 5th grade when I rebelled and refused to go to church any more.  I was having dance classes almost every day after school and all day on Saturdays, and I said I wanted a Day Off. 

I don't know if I ever really believed in god or Jesus, I just wasn't interested. I tried to believe when I was in high school...tried very hard, but I just couldn't.  I'd listen to my classmates when they got up and "witnessed" during services (this was at a totally different church...Bapnit), and wondered why none of that stuff ever happened to me.  I was so naive that it never occurred to me that they might be lying.

(re-posting to correct some typos.  I have an orange purr-monster between me and the keyboard.)

Comment by Patricia on September 26, 2013 at 6:30pm

Yes, Sk8ey, the questions just compounded themselves as my age & reading abilities increased, & nobody's answers ever satisfied me........all I got was ''you ask too many questions''.....surprise!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 26, 2013 at 5:18pm
sk8eycat, "In the beginning....we lied."
Yes, I think that correctly names the situation. One lie leads to another and pretty soon everything gets so chaotic, no one can separate the fabrication from fact ... unless, of course, one throws out the entire belief system and goes with direct observation and critical thinking, with experimentation and doubts.
Comment by Steph S. on September 26, 2013 at 4:08pm

How is everyone?

I'm reading all the posts here. I hope everyone is having a good week so far.

Comment by booklover on September 26, 2013 at 4:02pm

I'm sort of an odd-ball because my son was homeschooled from 4th grade up, but we joined a secular homeschool group.  His best friend was also homeschooled, and their family are Atheists as well.  I know most homeschoolers are really religious.  We met quite a few nutjobs.  We stayed away from them. lol.

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 3:08pm

If Eve was cloned from Adam's rib (there are 2 versions of her creation in Genesis, but the "mental" people only read the 2nd one), then she/he was having sex with him/herself.

My question later was, where did Cain's wife come from...he supposedly killed his brother and went to another town...HOW was that town populated?

"In the beginning....we lied."

Comment by Patricia on September 26, 2013 at 2:54pm

One of my very early questions was Mary being pregnant with gawd's child, but married to Joseph, so why wasn't this adultery?....which of course is a sin!!

Another was Adam & Eve, if they reproduced, it had to be incest between the offspring for them to reproduce....another sin!!..........no wonder humans are mostly ''mental'' .... hahahaha!!! 

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 2:35pm

FundaMENTAList xians truly believe that "there are many things that kids are not meant to know."  Particularly science.  That's why they want financial help from the gov't to send their kids to private schools that turn out idiots just like them.

Once youngsters learn that the earth was not created in 6 days, they start asking questions, and won't settle for evasive answers.

Most of the atheists I know were raised in much more religiously restrictive homes than I was.  As a comparison, on xmas morning they had to wait for their fathers to finish reading the buybull before they could open their presents.  My sister and I had to wait for Dad to set up the camera and take at least one roll of photos of the tree, the fireplace, us, etc. before we could rip into everything.

I've always felt embarrassed when people prayed before meals, especially in restaurants. 

Comment by booklover on September 26, 2013 at 7:42am

I've only ever protected my children from physical danger, not knowledge!

 

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