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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2013 at 8:15am
Melinda, I love your comment, "I think a lot of it is being SATISFIED."
It is a lot more fun being around people who work hard, get what they can afford and are satisfied with their lives. I hate being around people who want more, more, more. It is like being with an octopus, grasping and holding onto things and looking around to see what others have. Economic materialism doesn't work for me either.
Your stories of experiences raising your children delight me.
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2013 at 7:49am
Chris, I agree that people hate to face what is happening. I like your statement, “I think there will be more grassroots groups that work together and share - initiatives that help people and society.”
Therein lie the possible solutions, individuals gathering with others in a common effort to solve problems and resolve conflicts.
We know what doesn’t work: primitive belief in supernatural powers, prayers to a non-existent god, looking for others to rescue us from our follies.
Most of us have what we need to think and imagine, explore, experiment, and take focused action. Most of us have the power to create a lifestyle that we can support through our own efforts.
The institutions of our culture, i.e. family, religion, education, health care, banking and financial markets, and government sometimes get in the way of empowering individuals to flourish.
Finding and developing each one’s internal wisdom, learning new skills, taking responsibility for ourselves, supporting each other, these are the things that will pull us out of the present depression.
As atheists, we have shucked one of the elements that keep us bound. Free of mind-bindings, we can explore, not the probabilities, but the possibilities.
My preference is to live in a just society with laws applying to each person individually. I prefer a culture that values empowerment of individuals.
My job today is to overwhelm the cancer cells in my body. While sitting quietly, I can imagine and dream away the hours of ways to build community. Multi-tasking is very familiar to me.
6:00 AM and I am out to pick raspberries for breakfast. Life doesn't get much better than that.
Comment by Plinius on July 22, 2013 at 12:53am

Joan,

when people tell you that you're negative, they know that you're right, but they just hate it that you're realistic.

Comment by Plinius on July 22, 2013 at 12:48am

The modern, western-style of over-consumption has not only become our normal standard of living but also an expected human right, any negative consequences be damned

But here, as in the USA, there are many people forced to rationing by poverty. They cannot use creditcards and they always are out of money before the month is over. But I don't expect outbreaks of anarchy - at most more 'proletarian shopping'. I think there will be more grassroots groups that work together and share - initiatives that help people and society.

I grew up in the 50s and I learned frugal living right from the start. For me it's not so difficult to economize when my income goes down, but for younger people...

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 21, 2013 at 9:21pm

Felaine, that Apple Soup sounds very delicious.  Thanks for chiming in.  I've been thinking about you and I hope you're well. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 21, 2013 at 9:17pm

While I do love the luxuries of modern life, by no means do I live an extravagant lifestyle.  Maybe it's because I'm not wealthy, but I also live a pretty frugal lifestyle.  I have no desire to keep up with the Joneses.  I recycle and I buy frugally.  When I do make "major" purchases, I tend to buy items that will last longer but may cost more.  It saves money overall.  This way I can enjoy the nicer things in life.  I also have a knack for making things last a long time by taking care of items properly.  I'm still using my Sony CD player and DBX stereo speakers that I bought in 1988!!  They were both rather expensive at the time and have served me very well.  I'm not one to constantly update just to have the latest gizmos. 

I do have items that I splurge on, mainly food and items for my hobbies.  I certainly love the pleasures of good food, and my hobbies give me a lot of personal satisfaction in my life.  If I were wealthy (mufti-millionaire wealthy) I really don't think I would be a "conspicuous consumption" type of person.  It's just not my style.  I do know that I would be very philanthropic with my fortune.  That is my style.    

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 21, 2013 at 9:04pm

Our group is well informed on the challenges facing USA and Earth  today and has taken steps to prepare for whatever happens, whether it is an economic collapse or a precipitous weather change.  If neither one occurs, then we have lost nothing. If these or other factors catch us off guard we are flexible and adaptive. 

There is no substitute for simple pleasures, and wonder only requires being aware of all the diversity around us. We have not had the scorching heat and humidity that so many experience; for that I am grateful. 

“Money has never made man happy, nor will it, there is nothing in its nature to produce happiness. The more of it one has the more one wants.”

~ Benjamin Franklin


 

Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2013 at 8:08pm

I don't want to interrupt, because this is a fascinating discussion (has anybody else noticed that the US economy started to slide when Nixon slashed NASA's budget ...while he was on the phone with Armstron & Aldrin!  We've never really recovered from that.)

Anyway, I've been playing  with fall recipes:

EVE WAS FRAMED APPLE SOUP
Recipe developed by The Serpent
  

2          Cups               Apple Juice or Cider

2          Large              Cooking Apples; peeled, cored, coarsely chopped

¼         Cup                 Raisins

2          Sticks             Cinnamon     

2                                  Whole Allspice  (optional)

2          Tbsp               Brown Sugar

1          Tbsp               GOOD Brandy (NOT  “cooking brandy”)

In large saucepan, combine apple juice, apples, raisins, cinnamon, and allspice.  Bring to slow boil; reduce heat, cover, and simmer 15 to 20 minutes until apples are tender. 

Stir in brown sugar and brandy and simmer, stirring occasionally, until sugar is completely dissolved.  Remove cinnamon and allspice and discard. 

Can be served warm or chilled with smoky ham slices, cheddar cheese, crackers, crusty bread, etc., on the side.  (Cheese biscuits?) 

For a different texture, after removing cinnamon and allspice, puree’ in blender.


 

Comment by Patricia on July 21, 2013 at 2:46pm

Melinda, I didn't have an outside job after getting married, so raised my own kids as well. I never saw the point of having kids & handing them over to others to raise & pay them to do it!

I learned to make very good bread, sewed & knitted a large percentage of our clothing, cooked from scratch, clipped coupons & always watched the sales.

We also have no mortgage & we most certainly were not deprived of the necessities. We'd treat ourselves occasionally, but that's the operative word.....occasionally, which kept things at treat status!

Vacations were camping out in the remote areas where we didn't have to pay fees. Of course our whole area here is very close to remote spots with beautiful lakes/rivers/mountains/forest, etc., so long distance driving wasn't an issue.

We were over 50 before we did any large vacations, like the cruises & the train tour, but truth to tell, I'm not much for travel so am happiest at home scootering around everywhere I want to go.

The home renos we did were done with my husband's inheritance money, & that's what he chose to do with it. We have a beautiful place now but it's most certainly not over the top luxury....that's just not us!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 21, 2013 at 2:10pm

Patricia, I like you joining in the "Pissed Off crowd. We are becoming legion. 

 

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