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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Seeing Things (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Thursday. 2 Replies

TheraminTrees doesn't release videos very often these days,  but when he does, they are positive GEMS.  Most recent of his works is the following, wherein he dismantles some of the common rebuttals atheist get from believers when we assert our…Continue

Tags: seeing things, YouTube, TheraminTrees

Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15. 4 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

Tags: dispute at Hang With Friends

You'll NEVER Guess Who Just Showed Up on Mr. Deity!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 14. 11 Replies

I don't believe this one either, but ... well, here it is: And would you believe - Mr. D made me laugh!  RD, that is!Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Mr. Deity

Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 6. 20 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Seth Andrews' New Book, "Sacred Cows" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Feb 6. 7 Replies

For the last few podcasts, Seth Andrews has been alluding to a new literary effort he's been working on.  Well, the cat is out of the bag ... or perhaps I should say, the cow is out of the barn!  Seth's new opus is entitled: Sacred Cows: a…Continue

Tags: book, Sacred Cows, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 2, 2013 at 9:24pm

Ugh!!  I hate sitting through a prayer in a restaurant.  Been there, done that several times.  It's embarrassing. 

Melinda/Felaine, about 10 or 11 years ago I made the conscious decision to cut myself off from and rid my life of people who had nothing positive to bring into my life or that I didn't enjoy being around.  I was tired of not getting anything good in return for the effort I put out.  Perhaps to some people that sounds selfish, but my life has been so much better and less stressful as a result.  I just hate drama, unless it's in a movie.  Although I'm a nice, friendly and cordial guy (if I may say so), I'm careful and choosy about who I bring into my inner circle.  You two have done the right thing. 

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 7:11pm

That one phrase is so true:

"...Christians are some of the most hateful people I know..."

I must admit that one couple I've been close to since jr. high (I was a bridesmaid at the wedding in 1958) who are very sincere about being a Baptist minister and Mrs. Rev., but they are still a lot of fun, and they don't get in my face about my atheism. They like me for myself.  That's all I ask from anybody.

Well, the Rev. does one thing that makes me feel awkward, when we have an informal reunion at the hamburger place where we used to hang out, he insists (doesn't ask) on ad libbing a sermon-length prayer while the fries get cold.  I refuse to bow my head, but I've never started eating while he's putting on his little show,  Maybe next time....

Oh, and they are very proud of being friends with Beverly and Tim LaHaye (of "Left Behind" fame)....and even though the Rev is retired, he still travels and substitutes at churches that need a temp.  And they never have to worry about where their next burgers and fries (and malts) will come from....

Comment by Steph S. on May 2, 2013 at 5:21pm

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 11:58am

Please excuse all the typos in that last post. There's some rather expensive plumbing work going on out in the patio (replacing a broken pipeline), and it's freaking me out a bit.

I NEVER wanted to be a homeowner. 

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 11:52am

Joan, you are the LAST person in here that I would call "hard-hearted"!

I have dumped a few basically nice friends in the last 40 years because they tried to drag me "back into the fold" in one way or another.  they were genuinely worried about the state of my non-existent soul, but I just couldn't hack what felt like nagging to me.  I finally just stopped returning phone calls, and when one came no my door one Sunday AM, I just blurted "What part of 'NO' don't you understand?" And quietly shut the door.  It was rude, but it worked.

Sometimes you just have to offend them to get them to quit bugging you.  If they want to discuss beliefs in a friendly way, will listen politely to my/your side of things, and don't proselytize, that's fine. They have to understand that faith in the invisible, unprovable, incredible isn't something one can turn on or off like a light.  I don't believe anymore because I can't. Simple as that.

I have also dumped a formerly close friend, not because of religion but because she's become completely racist, and I can't stand that, either.  I think she's reverting to her upbringing in the Deep South as she gets older.  *shudders*

So, my friend, we deal with truth, not wishful thinking, and the truth is that you and I know we don't have all that much time left... nobody knows exactly how much...but why should we waste it on people that make us uncomfortable?  That isn't hard-heaarted IMO, it's practical.  ;>)

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 11:19am
Tom, I understand your point about Dennett not finding a way to politely state his point of view. I share Dennett's value that religion causes more pain and suffering and is not made up by the good that it does. It is the dogma that I/he find so revolting and needing to be articulated out loud.
A very sweet neighbor of mine is a devout believer; I don't want to offend her, however, I do want her to hear my beliefs. If she is offended and if I lose her as a friend, What is, is. Maintaining a relationship or a friendship just doesn't matter that much to me. Guess I am hard hearted, even as I do hear the cries of the world caused by religious beliefs.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 11:17am
Tom, I understand your point about Dennett not finding a way to politely state his point of view. I share Dennett's value that religion causes more pain and suffering and is not made up by the good that it does. It is the dogma that I/he find so revolting and needing to be articulated out loud.
A very sweet neighbor of mine is a devout believer; I don't want to offend her, however, I do want her to hear my beliefs. If she is offended and if I lose her as a friend, What is, is. Maintaining a relationship or a friendship just doesn't matter that much to me. Guess I am hard hearted, even as I do hear the cries of the world caused by religious beliefs.
Comment by Steph S. on May 2, 2013 at 10:35am

Comment by Plinius on May 2, 2013 at 4:20am

And menopause is a blessing, thanks mother nature! Some ten years before that, I was at last old and ugly enough that men could talk to me without being distracted by thinking about seks with me: what a relief! I could talk to them and sometimes they even understood me...

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 3:59am

"Spiritual" is such a slippery word...if you go back to its origin, "spirit" comes from the Greek (or is it Latin?) word for "breath." In that sense we are all "spiritual" while we are alive. The phrase in the buybull, "the spirit left him," doesn't mean anything more than, "he stopped breathing."

Then there is "Rah! Rah! Rah!" school spirit.  Or lively, as in a "spirited" horse or dog...or any animal, including homo sapiens sapiens.

To me it sometimes means something that makes me gasp (inhale...in medical terminology "inspire.") with wonder and joy...such as standing at the rail of the viewing platform at Niagara Falls, or watching the first moon landing...live, photos of the universe from the Hubble Space Telescope, and videos from Sojourner and Curiosity on Mars.  AND seeing "Billy Elliott - The Musical" last year.

That collection of spirit-based words does NOT have anything to do with the supernatural as far as I'm concerned because there ain't no sich annimule.  As Annie Laurie Gaylor says, "The natural world is super enough for me."

 

 

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