Comment by Patricia on July 18, 2012 at 1:13pm

Comment by sk8eycat on July 18, 2012 at 2:05pm

@ Tony & Steph:Speaking of talking... "Deep within the heart of every evangelist lies the wreck of a car salesman." H.L. Mencken

You can actually buy a T-shirt with that on it...or other Mencken quotes. 

http://www.aspapparel.com/HL-Mencken-Quote-T-shirts.php

I just found this site, and I think I wanna get the entire collection.  But I LOVE the one about the car salesman.  Jerry Falwell never got rid of that part of his personality.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2012 at 3:38pm

sk8eycat, Perfect quotes! Re-posting!

Comment by booklover on July 18, 2012 at 4:02pm

Just picked-up my son's 17-year old friend from the airport.  Found out he is an Atheist.  We started talking, and he disagreed with me totally when I told him my 92 year-old (when he died) grandfathers fav saying was that religion was the scourge of the Earth.  His mom is Catholic, his Dad is muslim.  Disagreed that if there was a 'god', it was good for people to fall down and get hurt, (physically and mentally), because there is a lesson in that.  I said if I were a 'god', I wouldn't let my children get hurt to teach them a lesson, etc., etc.  I said what about little kids with cancer?  He agreed there was no lesson in that.  He said he's thought all this through long and hard.  Okay, but I'm 45 and he's 17 and my Mom was with us (also an Atheist), and she's 69.  With age comes more wisdom (usually, ha ha),  I don't know, just kinda hit me the wrong way.  Maybe it's because his parents are religious he 'defends' religion in a way? 

Comment by Steph S. on July 18, 2012 at 5:23pm

Cool booklover!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2012 at 7:05pm

 booklover, that is an interesting twist, "Found out he is an Atheist." and ..."he disagreed with me totally when I told him my 92 year-old (when he died) grandfathers fav saying was that religion was the scourge of the Earth."

I wonder what part of atheist he doesn't understand? You all shall be having an interesting visit, I am sure. 

Comment by sk8eycat on July 18, 2012 at 9:53pm

Hi, y'all!  I've been off-line about 24 hours...my sister was surfing around yesterday and did something that let a couple of horses in here.  I just got rid of them...by MYSELF!  I'm so relieved, and got such a kick calling my tech friend and telling him "Never mind!" (Actually we thoroughly discussed the results of my last scan, and he said I'm safe.)

Why to people DO that?  Write viruses, worms, etc...I mean.  To steal information?  Because they like to cause damage?  I don't get it.

Steph: I wuvz dat ORNJ kitteh!  Mai favrit flaver!  An hiz cattitude reminz me ob mai own docter.  Dr. BadJokes.

booklover: The kid is way too young to have it all figured out yet.  He probably thinks he does, but he's got a long way to grow. Do you have any good books you can lend him while he's visiting? Dan Barker's Godless is one that I've worn out because I look things up so often, and it's not written in Academish.  Or do you have the DVD of Julia Sweeney's play "Letting Go of God"?  Doing that takes time...most adults who were raised in a religious family usually say it took them from five to ten years to realize they can't believe in a god.  (If you don't have the DVD, maybe your local library does.)

Comment by dr kellie on July 18, 2012 at 10:11pm

Sorry about your issues, sk8eycat. 

 

I agree with you on the 17 yo.  I didn't really know who I was until I was in my late 20s.  I was too influenced to have my own mind.  It does take time.

Comment by booklover on July 19, 2012 at 7:11am

thanks for your comments everyone!  Yes, I do have books to loan and or recommend for him sk8eycat, but I have already found that he won't really listen.  He has Asperger's and is VERY smart, but then also seems to tend to think (in my opinion) that he is SO smart, he knows everything.  I think he thinks his opinions are correct and that's that!  I don't think I'll talk to him about Atheism anymore.  I'm not going to argue with a kid who thinks he has all the answers and won't listen to those of a fairly intelligent adult who has been around a lot longer than he has and has learned much more about Atheism ( he hasn't even been an Atheist is whole short life).  It gets my blood-pressure up, lol.  He said that much religion is good, and that if the world was all Atheist there would be chaos and no morals.  I told him about all the great people here on AN, and he condescendingly said "well of course because you have a little community there and that makes people good and care about each other".  what?  whatever! lol~ Melinda

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 19, 2012 at 7:59am

booklover, I agree with everyone, that a 17 year-old has a lot to learn.   That one seems especially egotistical, and I also wouldn't want to talk to him anymore.

sk8eycat, thanks for the excellent quotes.

Steph S., Dr Morris is a little scary.

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