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Thanks for all the pictures, wise words, and sharing about what's going on with your lives!
A "mew"sical note:
She's a grand old cat
She's a high-flying cat
And long may her proud tail wave
It's the emblem of
The cat we love
So handsome and clever and brave
Oh, the black and white
It's a horrible sight
If you happen to be a rat
May old acquaintance ne'er be forgot
Keep your eye on the grand old cat.
(Tune: "You're a Grand Old Flag"
Words: sent in to the Department of Folk Song
of A Prairie Home Companion)
Comment by booklover on November 26, 2012 at 5:18pm Thanks Spud! I'm sorry you have depression too. I take meds for anxiety and I don't really FEEL depressed. I just think I am depressed a little also. I guess I gained weight after my looks 'went' and don't really care (I'm not super-heavy, but more than I've ever weighed.) I do care for health-reasons though! This sounds, I can't think of the word, but I got to be young and pretty and thin, and now that I'm just a 'pleasant-looking', middle-aged, overweight woman, it's like I just don't care because I'm fine with that. I hope that doesn't sound horrible to anyone. See Joan? I'm talking! ;) No, I truly appreciate your offer to talk and your insight. I do have lots of people that I do have frank and good conversations with. I really don't feel bad about myself or anything. I just need to talk myself into taking better care of my health exercise-wise. When I was young I was very athletic. I hate getting all sweaty and then having to cool-down before I shower, etc. I know, I'm a big baby!!!! Just saying that makes me ashamed! lol. I know what makes me anxious and depressed, and that's worrying about my kids. I've told people on here a LOT, lol, that my son has type 1 diabetes (an auto-immune disorder, nothing like type 2), and my daughter has anxiety, ocd, depression~ same as I do (and my grandfather had, and sister, and her daughter...) I just can't be happy when she is so unhappy right now, and my son is fine, I will just ALWAYS worry about that every minute of every day for the rest of my life. WOW! I should have started a therapy thread! Thanks for listening friends!
Comment by Joan Denoo on November 26, 2012 at 3:05pm It was 33 years ago I completed my formal training and modern research builds on the theories of those "ancient" ones. I learned that feelings of being unable to control outcomes or predict outcomes leads to anxiety and depression. The term most often used with this mix of anxiety and depression is "Learned Helplessness".
Just about very organism with a brain can learn helplessness as demonstrated by research on prisoners of war, battered women and children, dogs, rats, pigeons, pike (the fish), octopus, and many other creatures. Anxiety and depression come with having a brain.
Treatments of anxiety and depression include medication, exercise, Rational Emotive Therapy, and Dialectic Behavior Therapy.
These last two involve a mixture of cognitive and behavioral therapies. For example, each one of us has a private conversation going on in our heads that only you hear and no one else can.
The conversation may include such "I am not good enough," "I can't do ...," "I don't belong," "am not worthy of being loved," "I'm not smart enough," "My life has no meaning or purpose."
These, of course, are not the only private internal conversations that create anxiety and depression, but they are the most common and the ones I heard most often during my 20+ years in practice.
So, may I be so bold as to suggest listening for your quiet, personal talk and see if you can discover something that makes you anxious or depressed. Get some exercise and focus on positive self-talk. Do things you like to do with people you enjoy and make you feel good about yourself. None of the fake talk or friends, but honest and reassuring talk and friends.
Let me know if you try these skills and if they help. I learn by listening to others, so go for it if you want to.
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Comment by Idaho Spud on November 26, 2012 at 12:33pm I like the unfriended cat also. :)
Comment by Idaho Spud on November 26, 2012 at 12:29pm Oh, that's funny Ian! And, cute.
Comment by Idaho Spud on November 26, 2012 at 12:27pm Hope your trip helps Booklover.
I can relate, because I'm 60 pounds overweight and Depression is a large factor I'm sure.
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Comment by booklover on November 26, 2012 at 12:12pm That's great Spud! I know I have gained too much weight. Issues with depression and anxiety didn't help! I need to get in the right frame of mind! Maybe that upcoming trip with give me incentive!
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