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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Soren Sagan 8 hours ago. 9 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Finding Your Roots

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Chris G on Tuesday. 9 Replies

I've been into genealogy for a long time. It's fun, especially with internet help, but increasingly frustrating. You see, I've hit "brick walls". And being a Smith doesn't make research any easier.Wouldn't you think I could find the death date and…Continue

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by sk8eycat on Friday. 11 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by sk8eycat Nov 26. 41 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

Aljam

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 24. 4 Replies

I'm not a news hound by any stretch, but I do like to stay informed about what's going on in the world. (I despise "local" news with all the reports of murders, robberies, fires, etc.)The national "evening" news shows really irritate me. I hate…Continue

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 22. 79 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Comment by Barend van der Merwe on April 11, 2012 at 12:42am

Hello - I think that is just awesome Ruth.

Always something new and amazing about the natural world and ourselves.

Thanks everyone - love the discussion.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 11, 2012 at 12:19am

Sk8eycat, I'd like to reply to your hearing your mother's name. We have language only in the higher brain, with one exception, recognizing the calls of mothers to children. Just like the penguin who can find her chick in a colony of tens of thousands by recognizing his cry, mammals know their mother's call with the lymbic system. I had a similar experience once, when I was lonely, and just as I was falling asleep I thought I heard family quietly moving about in the house (as if I were not alone). It was comforting. We have these primitive brain memories of being loved, and can call them up involuntarily with an inner voice. I've learned to be comfortable with these primitive parts of myself.

Comment by Steph S. on April 10, 2012 at 11:36pm
Hello everyone! How are you doing? Cool discussions here.
I'll check that vid out sk8eycat.
Comment by sk8eycat on April 10, 2012 at 10:40pm

I don't mean to interrupt the discussion about "supernatural" feelings and illusions, but a friend just forwarded this to me, and I think it's GA-LOR-IOUS!

ss video done by Alberta, Canada. I’m stunned by the quality of the video. You’ll probably watch it several times. This is fast paced but the hi def scenery is awesome in what is as close to 3-D without wearing special glasses.
 
 
Comment by Sarah Walton on April 10, 2012 at 6:52pm

What about the feeling one gets when  experiencing something uncanny or strange? That feeling of being so weirded out you're not sure how to react? And I mean, really weirded out.

I'll give you two examples. Once, when I was about 5, I saw an opossum on a neighbours' back patio. They are not native to the region I grew up in, and he was likely an escaped pet. I had never seen an opossum before, and it was like seeing a freaking unicorn. It was so bizarre, and I'll never forget how weird that felt. This must be how people feel when they think they've seen Bigfoot.
 

The second time, I was 12, star gazing with my family at my aunt and uncle's house and we saw a UFO. No really--it was flying, it was in the sky, I didn't know what the heck it was. Now I know I probably some sort of US stealth or flying wing aircraft, but at the time I was unfamiliar with them. Mix in the fact that it was night, flying very high and UFO themes were popular on TV at the time, and well, there's yer problem. ;)

I'd sort of like to be able to have that experience again. I see things that confuse and astound me, but I haven't been put in my place by weirdness in a long time.

Comment by Paula T. on April 10, 2012 at 6:10pm
I like watching clips of the Atheist Experience on YouTube. In one particular clip, the caller explains how good she felt after going to church, listening to hymns, hearing the sermons, etc. The host asked her if she ever felt chills while listening to anything else...any type of secular experience and she replied that yes, she had. He explained it just as Ruth did - the mind plays tricks on us and what we may feel is the "holy spirit" is just an emotional and physiological response. I just wish more people would see the connection - there is nothing spiritual or supernatural about these feelings.

I really wonder what goes on in one's life to be so indoctrinated to truly feel they have a 'personal' relationship with god or that he talks to them. As they say, when one hears voices, they should go see a psychiatrist...not go to church...
Comment by Richard ∑wald on April 10, 2012 at 3:48pm

"today's Fresh Air story"

I heard this too (my car is NPR -24/7), brief critique: crock o' shit.

Comment by Natalie A Sera on April 10, 2012 at 3:10pm

I once had an experience at a jujitsu class where the instructor darkened the room and put on a subliminal tape. I literally went under -- my arms and legs started to gyrate without any conscious control on my part, and I fell into a golden place of ineffable joy. It was so beautiful that when the instructor stopped the tape and flashed on the lights, I started to bawl out of control, and it lasted for about half an hour. Needless to say, everyone else in the room was shocked, and tried to comfort me, but I couldn't stop crying.

I can see where people who have that kind of experience could think it was supernatural, and some of the people in the room tried to convince me it was a death-like experience (I won't know about that until I die), but I see no reason that it couldn't have come from brain chemicals crossing synapses in just the right way to create the experience. I think spirituality is what people make of it -- I'm SURE that some people would have interpreted it as a message from god, or the experience of nirvana or some such, but I'm pretty sure it was a physical phenomenon. I've never been able to recreate it, and it WAS beautiful, but I just think my brain simply happened to be stimulated in the right way to cause it. I DO wish I could do it again! :-)

Comment by sk8eycat on April 10, 2012 at 2:58pm

Similar sensations:

1. When I was a teen at Sunday evening candlelight services; lots of quiet music, low lights, silent prayers.  I did feel something, thought it was god, but I never "heard" any words.

2. Age 19 - took a course in hypnotism as part of a PR deal when I was on the road with HOI.  The teacher gave the class a post-hypnotic suggestion that we would do the best show we ever had that night, and feel wonderful.  I did (I don't know about the others), and I also realized that I was having the same "uplifting" feelings that I used to have at those Sunday evening services.

3. 2 years ago - having an MRI of my neck...same "floating" feeling after a while.  (Much better than a drink or two!)

We still don't know a great deal about how the brain works, but I have read that meditation/prayer and experiments with magnetic fields can create the same bio-chemical effect...or electro-chemical.  I don't know which.  (I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree.)

And when I'm in that twilight place between sleeping and waking, I sometimes hear my mother quietly say my name.  Mom died in 1993.

I know my own miind created those "experiences."  Except maybe the MRI.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 10, 2012 at 2:16pm

Thanks for the post, Simone. It's an interesting study, albeit biased toward theism. Human beings have very flexible minds. I was always fascinated by accounts of how we failed to distinguish inner voices from outer (real) voices before widespread print literacy. For example Michael Foucault's describes how we once organized reality very differently in The Archaeology of Knowledge. Most people don't realize that reality as we perceive it is largely organized culturally at a deep level prior to perception. As I see it, our collective grasp of reason and subjective vs objective is more fragile than "common sense" admits.

 

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