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Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Thursday. 13 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

Twin terrorists caught

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jan 11. 7 Replies

Canada: twin terrorists caught before going to Mideast Saturday, January 10, 2015 By Martin Barillas L-R: Carlos and Ashton Larmond The Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrested and charged a pair of 24-year-old identical twin brothers on…Continue

Betty Bowers Best of 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 4. 33 Replies

Happy New Year, everyone!  Now that we're off on another 365-day stint of sniping at believers, leave it to America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, to sum up the year past from her holier-than-EVERYBODY point of view! Have You had YOUR Betty today?!?Continue

Tags: 2014, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by booklover Dec 28, 2014. 23 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2014. 11 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by Paula T. on April 5, 2012 at 9:29pm
I stand corrected, the origins are pagan or began with other religions. I suppose secular is the buzz word lately and I am aware of the origins, it's just that I'm still working at getting over my anger regarding religion and finding more information about the various holidays we celebrate. Going to Catholic school meant I was sheltered from anything that didn't agree with Catholicism/Christianity and wasn't even aware of Judaism until I was close to being a teenager. I couldn't figure out why Jewish people didn't believe that Jesus was the son of gawd! I had no idea there are thousands of different sects of many, many religions.

I typed religiloons before correcting myself. Not sure if I've heard it or seen it before, but kinda like the sound of it!
Comment by Jason Fleming on April 5, 2012 at 9:06pm

You're right, they aren't secular and are probably rooted in paganism. But its OK to pretend.  The difference is acknowledging those things are fantasy and not reality.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 5, 2012 at 9:00pm

Natalie, if you're the odd one out, then you have company because I'm there with you.  I'm also quite aware of the religious/spiritual background for many of holiday customs which are now labeled as "secular."  Of course this history is rarely if ever explained to children (or even adults!)  That's information that I took upon myself to learn as an adult.  Unfortunately most people don't bother to trouble themselves.  That's why I always find it rather funny when religious people complain about the "secular" aspects of religious holidays.  They just haven't a clue! 

Comment by booklover on April 5, 2012 at 8:49pm

You are right Natalie!  I don't really consider them to be anything other than just an excuse to eat some good food, give people I love presents, and get-together.  I never taught my kids it was anything other than fun-stuff in life.  They are now 20 and almost 18, and they're both Atheists.  You are right about those holidays though!  They are pagan and not secular. We also have fun on all the secular holidays.  We just make them all secular and ignore what anyone else thinks they mean.

Comment by Natalie A Sera on April 5, 2012 at 8:24pm

And to add an afterthought -- holidays like the 4th of July, Earth Day and memorials of events seem to me to be more secular than the observances of Christmas and Easter. I'm perfectly happy to observe those, because there truly is no pagan or other spiritual history behind them.

Comment by Natalie A Sera on April 5, 2012 at 8:21pm

I know that I'm the odd one out, but I don't consider those customs to be secular. To me, they're pagan, and the pagan belief in spirits is just as unacceptable to me as the monotheistic religions' belief in god. If you don't acknowledge the spirit-based beliefs in these customs, you might as well go to church, because you don't HAVE to acknowledge the divinity of Jesus either -- communion is just a cracker and some wine, isn't it?

Comment by booklover on April 5, 2012 at 8:13pm

Paula, when I was a kid that was ALL we celebrated:  Santa, the Easter Bunny, etc.  we had FUN! :)

Comment by Paula T. on April 5, 2012 at 7:55pm
Catholics and Christians in general are oblivious to the origins of their beloved holy days. The origins are not taught...that would cause people to think and doubt. Easter eggs, candy filled baskets, the Easter Bunny...they have been around for YEARS, just like Christmas trees, Santa, festively wrapped gifts, fancy baked goods. I don't remember learning about those aspects of "holy days" while I was in school. Don't people realize that the holidays they celebrate ARE, in fact, secular?? If they want the old-time holy days, let them get rid of all the non-religious aspects. They can attend mass, pray all day, and ask gawd to watch over them.....

It is scary to think that parents are teaching their children that innocent, fun parts of holidays are bad. Let kids be kids.
Comment by Tony Carroll on April 5, 2012 at 4:07pm

Okay. I understand no more Astin-Martin. Also, no more Walther PPK. But I just heard some really sacrilegious news. In the new movie, "Skyfall", that our favorite spy, Mr. James Bond, will be drinking BEER! No martini, shaken, not stirred. Oh the horror. Product placement, I cast thee into the pit of eternal damnation. My childhood, irrevocably dashed. My hero, the coolest man on the screen (when I was a pubescent lad) thrown under the bus. Alas, poor Bond, I knew him well.

Comment by booklover on April 5, 2012 at 3:16pm

sk8eycat, they don't understand because they've probably never researched it, and even if they did, their bible says 'god' wrote this so it HAS to be true and original!

 

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