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Browsing carved shell jewelry by Shinji Nakaba, I came upon this ring.LOL, "Kiss the ring" has a new meaning. They show how it's made.…Continue

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Comment by Natalie A Sera on April 5, 2012 at 8:21pm: I know that I'm the odd one out, but I don't consider those customs to be secular. To me, they're pagan, and the pagan belief in spirits is just as unacceptable to me as the monotheistic religions' belief in god. If you don't acknowledge the spirit-based beliefs in these customs, you might as well go to church, because you don't HAVE to acknowledge the divinity of Jesus either -- communion is just a cracker and some wine, isn't it?

Comment by booklover on April 5, 2012 at 8:13pm: Paula, when I was a kid that was ALL we celebrated: Santa, the Easter Bunny, etc. we had FUN! :)

Comment by Paula T. on April 5, 2012 at 7:55pm: Catholics and Christians in general are oblivious to the origins of their beloved holy days. The origins are not taught...that would cause people to think and doubt. Easter eggs, candy filled baskets, the Easter Bunny...they have been around for YEARS, just like Christmas trees, Santa, festively wrapped gifts, fancy baked goods. I don't remember learning about those aspects of "holy days" while I was in school. Don't people realize that the holidays they celebrate ARE, in fact, secular?? If they want the old-time holy days, let them get rid of all the non-religious aspects. They can attend mass, pray all day, and ask gawd to watch over them.....

It is scary to think that parents are teaching their children that innocent, fun parts of holidays are bad. Let kids be kids.

Comment by Tony Carroll on April 5, 2012 at 4:07pm: Okay. I understand no more Astin-Martin. Also, no more Walther PPK. But I just heard some really sacrilegious news. In the new movie, "Skyfall", that our favorite spy, Mr. James Bond, will be drinking BEER! No martini, shaken, not stirred. Oh the horror. Product placement, I cast thee into the pit of eternal damnation. My childhood, irrevocably dashed. My hero, the coolest man on the screen (when I was a pubescent lad) thrown under the bus. Alas, poor Bond, I knew him well.

Comment by booklover on April 5, 2012 at 3:16pm: sk8eycat, they don't understand because they've probably never researched it, and even if they did, their bible says 'god' wrote this so it HAS to be true and original!

Comment by sk8eycat on April 5, 2012 at 3:10pm: I do understand, really.

I was LOL-ing that the fundies think that the older pagan spring religious fertility symbols are "secular." It's similar to the FAUX "news" claims that we've declared "war on xmas" when it was the Roman church that hijacked the solstice holidays (and Mithras' birthday) for the birthday of their mythical human sacrifice.

They just don't understand that their seasonal holidays and symbols (and even some saints) were all lifted from older religions.

Comment by Pat on April 5, 2012 at 2:45pm: Real or not, it was still very funny. The link I posted to the Landover site is similar to an Amazon Review. I just caught the last section about people who bought this book also bought books by "Adolph Hitler, George W. Bush, and Rev. Fred Phelps."

Comment by Steph S. on April 5, 2012 at 2:29pm: Well if it was a real book my fundy Xtian sister would have that one.

Comment by Pat on April 5, 2012 at 2:24pm: @Chris. Not a "real" book. It's advertised on the Landover Baptist Church website, which is a spoof on evangelical Xtians.

Comment by Chris Dodds on April 5, 2012 at 2:17pm: @ Steph S. Wait, are you saying that's a real book? I just thought it was a funny internet image