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Comment by booklover on April 12, 2013 at 10:39pm
How did you do that Grinning Cat?! Lol. I like your picture MUCH better!!!!
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 12, 2013 at 10:48pm
Grinning Cat, I like your comment, "Many humanistic Jews, while rejecting "god said so" or "the rabbis said so", find value in the Sabbath as a time to "rest" from trying to dominate and control the world and other people, and appreciate who and what we have. It also asserts that time off isn't just for the rich, and that our dignity is based on more than our jobs and paychecks."

Sounds good to me.
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 13, 2013 at 12:14am

GrinningCat, that's great! Quite an improvement.

Sorry to hear about your cat Jerry, sk8eycat. We're with you. Spoil him. Great Big Bird. Finally relevant to today.

Thanks for the video, Joan. I like "If you're scientifically literate,the world looks very different to you." This is such a profound and pervasive difference. One which I routinely failed to communicate to my students, despite my best efforts. "Science is the poetry of reality." is nice too.

LOL, Steph. Grumplestilksin! Give peas a chance! Thanks for cheering up my bedtime.

Booklover, sorry to hear about Dale's brush phobia. Have you tried one of those gloves with little rubbery things?

Hugs to all.

Comment by Chris Breman on April 13, 2013 at 1:01am

Prednizone when it's cancer? A few years ago my vet told me that prednizone can also boost cancer growth. Thinking of you and Jerry, Sk8eycat!

Comment by Ian Mason on April 13, 2013 at 3:52am

Sorry to hear about Jerry, Felaine. I'm sure you'll be a great care giver for him.

I agree that it's a good thing to be science literate but I just can't manage it. Even if I do understand explanations I forget them again, sometimes within minutes. If numbers are involved then it's a waste of everyone's time. By the time the explanation's come to an end I've forgotten the beginning. Just let me revel in the arts and I'm happy.

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:07am

"Give peas a chance" -- I love it, Ruth!

Joan, I'm glad you read and appreciated my comment on humanistic Jewish views of the Sabbath. The idea of a day of rest for ordinary working people was a huge social reform!

Patricia, I saw an interview of Grumpy Cat (a.k.a. Tardar Sauce) and one of her humans. Yes, Grumpy Cat is a girl, and she's actually a very sweet and sociable kitty who was purring when the interviewer held her.

Thanks Melinda, Joan, and Ruth, I'm glad you like my visual response. Most things are better with cats! I'm lucky to have "inherited" a computer with Photoshop -- about half of which is over my head -- but you can do such things with many image editing programs, including the free "GIMP". I used the magic wand to "erase" the white dots, leaving them as transparent holes, then put the cat on a layer underneath.

(Photoshop geeks: I used a layer mask. Before using the magic wand, I'd tried selecting the dots all at once based on gray level, but that either got light bits of background or left jagged, aliased edges. If there were hundreds of dots I'd have worked out a more automatic method.)

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:53am

In Ex-Adventists, Jen Phoenix shares an "awesome" website listing and explaining logical fallacies: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

It turns out arguments for belief in God are well represented in the examples! There's also a bad argument or two for nonbelief -- but we shouldn't forget the "fallacist's fallacy": an unsound argument might have a conclusion that's true for other reasons. An example would be figuring that 16/64 = 16/64 = 1/4.

The page on Appeal to Consequences has a revealing slip that made me smile:

Both of these arguments are fallacious because ... all they do is appeal to the consequences of belief in God.... Neither argument, though, provides any evidence for Santa's existence.

And some pure silliness that exemplifies the "post hoc" fallacy:

(1) Most people who are read the last rites die shortly afterwards.
Therefore:
(2) Priests are going around killing people with magic words!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 13, 2013 at 7:26am

G-Cat, thanks for the Logical Fallacy website.  I try to read about fallacies often so I can avoid making them in my arguments.  

It would also be a good thing if I could remember their names, but that's tough.

However, I'm always pleased to see that I recognize a lot of the fallacies and don't make them myself, even though I can't give them a name.

Comment by Joseph Corder on April 13, 2013 at 8:27am

So sorry to here about Jerry.  Prednisone?  Is it like prednisone for humans?  My mother has taken prednisone for low blood platelets.  I hate to see any kind of suffering!  Take care and give Jerry a rub nose for me!

Comment by booklover on April 13, 2013 at 9:03am

Grinning Cat, I am so impressed that you can use Photoshop!  I am SO not computer-literate.

Ian, I am like you.  I can understand basically what people teach me about science, but I forget the numbers almost immediately, and could not explain it to anyone else.  I swear I don't have a math-gene in my body!

Ruth, Dale doesn't like to be touched except on his head!  He likes you to kiss the top of his head or scratch under his chin, etc.  Odd guy Dale! lol.

Good Weekend to everyone! :)

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Death of a family member

Posted by Larry Taylor on May 20, 2013 at 8:15pm 4 Comments

OK. I am venting. My mother died two weeks ago. She was a “god fearing christian.” Before her death she refused all medical treatment. She wanted to be left alone. She even refused to speak with my brother who is a methodist minister. He is a pip, let me tell you! I suspect she did not believe, but a woman born in her time could not and did not state her actual beliefs. This is the opening salvo to all christians; FUCK YOU! I had so many people come and tell…

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Unbelievable!!!!!!!!

Posted by Christy Stewart on May 20, 2013 at 2:17pm 6 Comments

This probably should not have shocked me as much as it did (especially since I am in Texas). I actually thought my coworkers were playing a joke on me because they know I am an atheist. Sadly, this was no joke. This actually happened.

I work in a psychiatric hospital. The doctors who admit patients are general MDs. (Psychiatrists see patients after admission) Yesterday evening we received several calls from irate parents. A new doctor who was doing admissions yesterday actually…

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anti-atheist rant from an Orthodox Mormon part 2

Posted by Debra Stevenson on May 20, 2013 at 1:09pm 1 Comment

What do you think of this,

 

Nathan Young,

 

No Jason Torpy it is you that should be banned for promoting atheism, a belief that has no foundation in reality and zero proof behind it.  The letter was a mockery of your atheist beliefs.  I request to the board here that they remove Jason for his unverifiable beliefs in atheism for which he has no proof other than his arrogance.  The letter was a mockery of atheism.  Atheism is stupid and it should be mocked and it…

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Anti-atheist post from an Orthdox Mormon

Posted by Debra Stevenson on May 20, 2013 at 12:42pm 3 Comments

 

What do you think of this Facebook comment?

 

 

Nathan Young to Jason Torpy,

 

for once you and I can agree on something.  We should disrespect beliefs that are untenable such as the belief that there is no God.  Indeed for me to respect you Jason, I cannot respect your belief in non-belief in atheism.  Your atheism comes across as arrogrance, smugness, and self righteous.  Indeed after reading "An Open Letter to My Religious Friends" I penned one…

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