The conflict in values is really very simple:
Some people believe that all Earth is precious and needs to be lived within its limitations.
Others believe Earth and all life forms exist as resources to be exploited. For those who can make their own way, Earth is a wealthy place; for those who cannot be self-sustaining, they are on their own.
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Permalink Reply by booklover on January 28, 2013 at 2:21pm Exactly Joan. I don't know how the exploiters live with themselves. Selfish. Sense of being more important than others? They think they're 'special?' I don't know, I just feel sorry for them, and even sorrier for the people who suffer because of them.
Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on January 28, 2013 at 2:49pm Melina, you are far kinder than I; I want them to provide evidence other than third person narratives and their faux miracles. Imagine! a woman claiming she wore her shoes for years and it was a miracle! She needs to be put on a witness stand and take an oath with her hand on her bible. She is fraud, pure and simple. I feel only disgust.
Permalink Reply by booklover on January 28, 2013 at 3:33pm
Permalink Reply by Joan Denoo on January 28, 2013 at 4:21pm Oh Melinda, I know. You are as concerned as anyone I know. I just want you to know I respect your response and it is kind and loving. I just don't share it. Your way is far more decent than mine. My sincere hope is that I don't turn you away from me because of my militancy. My life experiences has required me to be tough and even though I respond differently, I profoundly want all great-grandmothers to have decent shelter, nourishing food, potable water and surrounded by people they love and who love them. And no one has to suffer under the boot of domineering religion.
I know you share those deeply held emotions.
Permalink Reply by booklover on January 28, 2013 at 4:32pm
Permalink Reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on January 28, 2013 at 7:33pm Riane Eisler captures this distinction well as the difference between Partnership and Dominator Culture.

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I posted the bulk of this on another thread, but wanted to add some context separately.
I finally confronted my faith and embraced the fact of my atheism late last August, 2012. Days after I revealed my "epiphany" to a few friends who knew me from another message board, my sister died from Lou Gehrig's Disease (which pissed her off because she hated catching a disease from someone she never f---ed).
THAT was my sister, understand? She was a beautiful, life-loving, potty-mouthed…
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What do you think of this,
Nathan Young,
No Jason Torpy it is you that should be banned for promoting atheism, a belief that has no foundation in reality and zero proof behind it. The letter was a mockery of your atheist beliefs. I request to the board here that they remove Jason for his unverifiable beliefs in atheism for which he has no proof other than his arrogance. The letter was a mockery of atheism. Atheism is stupid and it should be mocked and it…
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