Should "Under God" be in the pledge of allegiance?

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Permalink Reply by Max Bjork on July 8, 2011 at 7:48pm

We're at 25% now...  I know this shouldn't really concern me, cause I'm Canadian but I would not be so vocal about being an atheist if it were not for church and state being tied so closely together.  Especially in the military.

Permalink Reply by alexa penzner on July 10, 2011 at 2:02pm

gods - NO!

 

i remember when they put it in - i always skipped that part in school.  did you know that the pepsi corp has come out with a patriotic can?  it's terrific - wait, i'll tell you.  it has pics of the flag, the empire state bldg., and the pledge of allegiance - with NO 'under gd' in it.  boy, are people complaining - how dare they ? Hah!  i'm delighted (and a proud pepsi drinker i am, too :) (yeah, i know, it's bad for you - sorry, i ain't no 'saint', or whatever :]

 

oh - and you can say "thanks to my imaginary friend in the sky" and bother people -i'm sooo bad!

 

 

Permalink Reply by sk8eycat on July 10, 2011 at 4:54pm

Uh...that "Coke or Pepsi can" story is a semi-myth, and it's 10 years out of date. See Snopes.com

 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/undergod.asp

 

The Readers Digest-reading undergodders keep circulating the story, and the details keep changing and getting wilder.  Amazing isn't it?  Here we are in the so-called "Information Age," and people still can't get their facts straight, or they twist the facts to suit their own prejudices and beliefs.  (A lot of them also don't seem to be able to spell or understand a language they've been speaking since early childhood)

 

No wonder the buybull is such a mish-mash of nonsense.  It's had thousands of years to get that way...sort of like the party game, "Telephone."

Permalink Reply by Lary9 on July 10, 2011 at 5:13pm

I am reluctant to insert myself here in defense of Biblical contextual criticism, however, even though I am no fan of the Bible, I have to point out that unlike the party game "Telephone", the Bible has original documents dating back well over 2 millennia which have been reviewed over and over again. No other literature in the history of western civilization has been so thoroughly examined and debated. So if you want to find flawed methodology in the beliefs of Christian "supers"(super-naturalists), there are many others, all more irrational and non-probative than the Bible.

Permalink Reply by alexa penzner on July 10, 2011 at 5:17pm

jeeminy, cripes, holt cow - & worse !!

 

Thank you so much, skycat - all the people i have talked with have never said anything about it - we all thought it was true.  and i figured i didn't find them cause maybe they were only in midwest. it was never a big deal anyway, just a fun thing. the advert against was so well done, too. that'll teach me to use the Urban Legend site.  oh, well, i was so proud of Pepsi. . .

 

i liked it when you said "Uh" . . . i usually go "umm"  

 

anyway - thanks again - alexa (nyc)

 

 

Permalink Reply by sk8eycat on July 10, 2011 at 10:27pm

Tee-hee!  You're welcome.  I love Snopes.com; sometimes I go there and scroll and click around just for fun.

Permalink Reply by linda wagner on July 10, 2011 at 3:54pm

Loren speaks for me too. Well said Loren.

Permalink Reply by thomas smith on July 10, 2011 at 5:32pm

those words were added in the 1950s

Permalink Reply by Lary9 on July 10, 2011 at 5:34pm

Eisenhower's Ghost...

Permalink Reply by sk8eycat on July 11, 2011 at 5:01pm

It also negates the first three words of the US Constitution.  If this country is under anything, "We the People" are not soverign.  Can't have it both ways.

Permalink Reply by Nerdlass on October 4, 2011 at 3:50am

There's something to put in, instead.

 

"One nation, under we the people..." ---And really, the first to complain gets egg on their face.

Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on October 4, 2011 at 6:59am

I've always liked the idea of "One Nation, Under Law," as we are a nation of laws designed to insure our freedoms, but that's just one suggestion among many.

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