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Permalink Reply by Alice on January 12, 2012 at 7:47pm

Here is a conversation between Dawkins and a Jewish Rabbi who runs a Synagogue that doesn't believe in a God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vpD-9C0JNA&feature=digest_thu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqqoViVXf-c&feature=digest_thu

Permalink Reply by Patrick Moore on January 14, 2012 at 11:57pm

  Natalie-  Earlier on you stated that when you were younger you decided to turn your eyes not inward to Judaism, but rather outward toward the world.  I apologize if I am misquoting you.   What particular lines did you draw between your own point of view and that of your cultural point of view (besides, specifically, religion)?  Were there some really big issues, or did you just feel too limited in your choices if you focused on the general cultural expectations?  Or do I misunderstand what you mean entirely?

  Sometimes I think I grasp certain points you've made, only to realize that I've missed the point due to an inaccurate presumption.  By turning your eyes outward, I think that I have mistook you for meaning some kind of rejection of some part of your culture-which apparently you didn't.     

Permalink Reply by Tom Sarbeck on January 15, 2012 at 7:43am

We've probably all heard of developmental tasks, the actions which, as children become adults, help them develop the abilities required of adults. Depending in part on what children learn in their families, they do these tasks at different ages.

I understand that during our twenties, many of us begin to see our emotional responses to events as differing from our words and actions that follow our emotional responses.

Neurologically, signals pass through the amygdala, which sends signals to various body parts to produce immediate responses, and to higher brain regions to produce considered responses.

Here on AN our ages vary widely, as do what we learned in our families. I suppose those are why some of us here separate better than others our emotional responses to events from our words and actions that follow our emotional responses.

Permalink Reply by Steven D Campagna on January 20, 2012 at 9:45pm

ORTHODOX JEWS

'When boarding a crowded bus with standing passengers in the front, women should board the back door after paying the driver in the front.'

(Notice posted by 'Private Transportation Corporation', on its city-franchised B-110 bus in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn, N.Y. - New York Times 1-20-2011)

Orthodox Jews - still hateful and bigoted towards some of their own (females). Will the god-believing public ever accept women as equals?

Permalink Reply by Natalie A Sera on January 20, 2012 at 10:15pm

Glad you distinguished Orthodox Jews from other Jews who very much disagree with their actions. It's like my devout and GOOD Christian friend said of the Fundies -- we can't deny that they are part of our family, but then again, there are white sheep and there are black sheep (not saying who're the good ones and who are the bad ones -- wouldn't want to be color-biased).

Permalink Reply by Alice on January 21, 2012 at 3:52am

I've been on crowded buses in India and copped a few gropes - not sure what it's like in Orthodox Brooklyn, but it may be a protection!

Permalink Reply by Tom Sarbeck on January 21, 2012 at 4:33am

Were the writers of the Old Testament telling of the overthrow of the region's matriarchal religions?

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