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Godless of Hawaii

Any who respect critical thinking, empirical evidence, and the scientific method are welcome to join for some informal meetings at local bars, restaurants, beaches, etc.

Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Members: 38
Latest Activity: Jun 18

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National Atheist Party wants you!

Started by Jacob Kramer Oct 27, 2011. 0 Replies

A Hawaiian Goes To TAM in Las Vegas

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Hawaii Food and Drinks

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Comment by Kaimana on September 10, 2009 at 8:04pm
I personally like skeptic. Freethinker sounds somewhat like a cult to non-atheists. It's one of those things that just sounds enticing. Who WOULDN'T want their thinking to be free? Nothing wrong with that!

So yes, I'm a freethinker, but I don't call myself that.
Comment by Mike Gonsalves on September 10, 2009 at 5:20pm
Welcome Adrian and Eric! Glad to have more freethinkers in the group.

Like Eric, I have a lot of admiration for Secular Humanism. I think the Secular Humanists through their various Manifestos have laid out a very positive program. Their affirmation of life and human values is wonderful. I am proud to call myself a Secular Humanist as well as an Atheist.

I also like the "freethinker" label. But I also enjoy calling myself an atheist, especially when I am around people who react with shock and disbelief. There is something very satisfying about jogging their thinking. I hope they learn from the encounter that we are normal human beings, not whatever they have been led to believe.
Comment by Adrian Ramirez on September 10, 2009 at 3:41am
How's it!! ....just wanted to add one more free thinker to your lonely group of heathens on the rock. I've lived on O'ahu for 3 years and abandoned bronze-age mysticism quite some time ago. Looking forward to conversing with other free-thinking/atheist/naturalist/skeptics in the islands.

I think Im so atheist now, that Ive started taking on Sam Harris' complaint that atheism is not a good name because it is using something I am NOT to define myself. Instead, 'naturalist' might work better: as in, i only accept the natural universe as true, nothing "super-natural". ....but atheist works for now >)

...and for the record, Aloha shoyu is totally crappy.
Comment by Kaimana on September 4, 2009 at 1:33am
Kikkoman is actually pretty good. It's got a lot more real shoyu flavor than Aloha, probably since it's actually properly made. Although the Kikkoman in the little packets taste's quite a bit like Aloha (but a little better). It tends to be my shoyu of choice because it's available everywhere, and it's high quality. Tamari is also good, has a bit of a different flavor than Kikkoman. Shoyu is a lot like beer or wine in that varying ingredients, how it's fermented, and for how long all change how it tastes. Although, people in Hawaii just tend to prefer Aloha, because it's what they all grew up with, and it's incredibly cheap.

Also, I can't stand the taste of coffee. But hey, it smells nice!
Comment by Calvin on September 4, 2009 at 1:04am
Wow, Kaimana, I’m impressed by your shoyu knowledge. I think I only know the cheep stuff like Aloha or Kikkoman, but if you could tell me what the better types are, I’ll give it a try. I’m always willing to broaden my horizons. Here’s one back at you, have you ever had a beautiful coffee? Take a beautiful (1oz. Cognac, 1oz. Grand Marnier) pour it into a cup of coffee and top with whipped cream, now that’s an after dinner drink.
Comment by Kaimana on August 31, 2009 at 2:39pm
Glad you asked Richard!

Rather than properly fermenting soy beans to achieve the taste and color of shoyu, cheap brands (like Aloha) take soy protein, toss in some artificial coloring, and voila.
Comment by Mike Gonsalves on August 31, 2009 at 1:05pm
Meetup.com looks like a useful tool to schedule meetings. I'm fine with using it to schedule our get-togethers.
Comment by Richard Valcourt on August 31, 2009 at 11:42am
LOL! I'm not a shoyu aficionado myself. Since I have high blood pressure, I generally avoid the stuff, except when I eat sushi (and then I use the low sodium variety). But even when I consumed the real thing I'm not sure I had any clear preferences. What makes shoyu "real", anyway?

Maybe we need a separate shoyu discussion in the forum for this? It could get heated. :-)
Comment by Kaimana on August 31, 2009 at 3:25am
Completely unrelated to atheism, but I just have a quick Hawaii related-rant.

Why is everyone here in love with Aloha shoyu? It's really, really shitty shoyu. It's not even the real thing.

I'm curious if there's a correlation between being a free-thinker, and using high quality shoyu.

Seriously though, screw Aloha brand.
Comment by Armen Martirosyan on August 25, 2009 at 9:58pm
Too bad I missed the last meeting. Given enough notice, I can generally be free Thursday to Sunday evenings.
 

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