Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 170
Latest Activity: 6 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6, 2014. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1, 2014. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30, 2014. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16, 2014. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8, 2014. 21 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo 6 hours ago

Randy, your collard greens sound so good. We had no snow cover over anything, meaning there will be some losses. I hope the tulips and lilacs will bloom well this year. 

Barbara, your garden sounds so wonderful and you have so many new skills. All kinds of creativity come out of gardening. Setting stones and creating rain barrels being just two. Your local advisors love to help with solving problems. Nectarine and plums are refreshing. I hope you will send us photos. Roses blooming? Gracious me. I forget how different our weather patterns are. As I remember, February is the very worst month for unpredictability. Of course summers were hot and I didn't like that. but not knowing what to put on when going shopping was a real challenge. 

Kathy, another dose of ice and snow! Oh boy! 

Daniel, I hope you will share a photo of your pavers, too. 

Comment by Joan Denoo 6 hours ago

Such gardening news. Cold, hot, rain, snow, ice and wind. Yes, it is getting closer to spring. Feb 1 is Imbolc in the ancient Celtic calendar, the first day of spring. 

It means to me a new beginning. Plants begin to break dormancy and the growing season begins. There is a sense of activity, of making things, creating, imagining and making the imagined thing comes to life. I think of yellow in the spring ... tulips, forsythia, new growth. Wind fits with Imbolc, brisk and refreshing wind. Robins in the Mountain Ash tree eating berries, baby birds will be fledging soon, still too early to turn on the outside water. Spring rains and mud. It is a time of year when the dogs and cats bring in mud. 

In the country the birthing of lambs, baby rabbits will be showing up soon.  

This year we had no winter to speak of. Our snow pack is 1/3 short foretelling a dry autumn. If we have a wet spring there will be a lot of undergrowth in the forest, increasing the danger of forest fires.   

Spring kind of gives us a forecast of the coming year. ... but everything is changing, so we will just have to wait and see.   

I selected my seeds to start, including Sun Gold Tomato. The trays and seeding material sit at my basement workbench and there will be activity down there starting this week.  

I have to remember to get new grow light bulbs.

Oh! do you feel the itch?   

Comment by Barbara Livingston 8 hours ago

Kathy, it will be here before you know it!  :)  We are having totally crazy warm weather here. My rose bloomed today and so did some salvia. This weekend to be cold w/rain - next week expect a freeze, and it will most likely create some compost for me. 

Your walkway with the mixed pavers sounds really pretty. Doing a walkway is a completely different beast, or at least I think so.  I did mine last year using some pavers that were here when I bought the house - and didn't have a clue what I was doing - this year I get to do it over again as most of them tilted or sank. More sand!  Good luck with yours. 

Daniel, I used plain ole gray 12" pavers, (except for at front and I used the red 12") easy to handle but not too pretty. I made a square of 4 pavers, w/ 1/2" between them, and then simply laid another layer on top of those. Then put sand between them. After I was done wondered if I should have gotten red for all, but I'm not changing!  I've never done it before so was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to achieve a nice level area - used short piece of 2x4 to make smooth and then checked with level. In my next life I'm coming back as a mason's helper! :) Guy at stone company said to just make sand 2" deep and that's what I did. The first time I was able to get all four pavers level on first try a happy dance and a "atta girl" was necessary. :)  Do you use a compactor when you lay your walkway?  

Comment by Daniel W 8 hours ago

Kathy, Spring will come!  When the daffodils bloom, you will know it's here.

Barbara, I have pavers to install too.  It's a lot of work.  Looks very good when done.  For mine, it will mean, no longer walking through mud to get in the front door.  The paved path will keep grass from spreading into the border.  I dug up old pavers from several locations, and mixed with new ones of 3 colors (brown, slate, brick red) for a random cobblestone look.  I like the look, and it lets me re-use a lot of old pavers.  For me, the hardest part is leveling.

Comment by k.h. ky 10 hours ago
My hopes for an early spring are probably going to be dashed. There's an ice/snow mix headed this was early sun morning. Maybe it will pass by quick.
Comment by Barbara Livingston yesterday

Randall, Actually it was "Margaritaville" lol.  At 6:00 a.m. with my first cup of coffee,  I was surveying my kingdom when the thought "Sand!" occurred to me. Sand to level the pavers correctly and hold them in place. So much for good planning. Back to the drawing board or should I say back to Lowe's for sand, and while the paint is drying on the barrels I can re-set all the pavers. Yes, warm weather is great, although I wonder what is going to happen when we get a frost after this warm weather - zap a few things.  

Comment by Randall Smith yesterday

Barbara, I'm so envious of you being able to work outdoors this time of year. My anticipation grows stronger each day. I'll be interested in how your nectarine and plum trees do. Cheeseburger in Paradise?

Comment by Barbara Livingston on Wednesday

Suddenly my gardening efforts have turned into real work.  77F today, cold rain coming on Friday. I'm soooo glad I don't live in MA, I feel their pain.  I'm scrambling to sand and paint my rain barrels. Schlepped concrete pavers for them to sit on, levelled with my handy dandy level, I think they are about ready for the barrels - tomorrow they should be finished and final placement on Thursday before the rain comes. 

Joan, I took local advice ... "dig hole, mix original soil with three shovels of compost, mix well and plant tree". Soaked roots in root starter first, and them emptied gallon of solution around tree after planting.  Added additional compost around tree. Will put some mulch over it all tomorrow.  And not too close to trunk. :)

Planted both nectarine and plum in this manner. Will lightly prune both. A soft humming of a Jimmy Buffet song, a happy dance, and they should grow! 

Placing rain barrels required I move my Confederate Jasmine from smart pot on patio and plant into the ground - in an area with good dirt. Yeahhh!  Pruned it back and now have several cuttings which I'm going to soak in rooter starter and than put into pots. Will pass along to someone who will appreciate them if they grow.  Such inspiration on here that I'm planning to try my hand at starting new plants from everything I prune. Will be wonderful to give away. 

Randall, "Mysteries of Gardening". No truer words were spoken!  Every day is like starting over for me.

Comment by Randall Smith on Tuesday

It's the dead of winter and my garden is still directly supplying me with food! I "unearthed" some collard greens buried in a snow drift, kept protected from the elements. With olive oil and vinegar, they tasted great!

Comment by k.h. ky on Saturday
Starting plants from compost sprouts is one of my favorite things. Often l don't know what it is until it matures.
The poppies are a puzzle. My neighbors have great luck with them. And azaleas. I can grow neither. But I can grow several things they can not. Just one of the mysteries of gardening.

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