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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius 23 hours ago. 2 Replies

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W yesterday. 2 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Plinius Apr 15. 13 Replies

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 10, 2014 at 5:06pm

Don, I'm so incredibily envious of you and your potential greenhouse. I want one so bad I can taste it.  I would love to be able to propagate some cuttings and seeds over the winter months. Will just have to turn my dining room table into a green house for this season. :)

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 10, 2014 at 4:53pm

Barbara, Your management of the grass eradication sounds as though it works. I know what you mean by the St. Augustine grass. It is different than anything we grow in the NW. Glad to learn your tiller worked beautifully for you. Looking forward to you sharing your photos of veggies with us next summer. Your wonderful story of your puppy and the milkweed plant delights me. 

Sorry you fellas have given up on melons; I have too. Just not enough hot nights to get the kind of sweet they are able to make. Spokane Valley can grow outstanding Hearts of Gold which needs 90 days from sowing to harvest. Next year, I may try them again and start them earlier, put them in the hottest part of the garden and give them night protection. 

Don, your ground looks so fertile and spacious. I am interested in your books. What have you written and what is your next book? Do you write any non-fiction? 

Randall, how did your family's harvest turn out after that terrible rain you had this summer? 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 10, 2014 at 4:47pm

Hi Deidre, welcome. I'm by no means the expert gardener in this group. I live in very hot and very dry South Texas. Last year I attempted to grow tomatoes in a pot and they just cooked and produced a few cherry tomatoes. Next year I'm going all out and will create a in-ground bed. Still haven't decided on which veggies I will grow, most likely heat tolerant ones though. There are many people on this site who produce awesome amounts of just about everything and will certainly be able to offer you advice.  Happy Gardening :)

Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 10, 2014 at 4:33pm

Oh my gosh Joan, adorable. I'm still finding things to marvel over even though I have so little in my garden.  Bumble bees for the first time for me, a Monarch, and of course resident squirrel. You stil have me beat hands down. I went to a friends house today and she gifted me wih Iris, Artemesia and a Rose bush. Just love free plants.:)

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 10, 2014 at 4:19pm

I sit in my garden having lunch. Just off the corner of my eye I see movement in a huge clump of Borage. Paying attention, I see a tiny little mouse climbing a stalk that is almost three feet tall. OOOOPPs, the stalk breaks and the mouse falls to the Wooly thyme. She scrambles onto the stock and begins nibbling at the pretty blue flowers. 

Yesterday, it was a squirrel climbing up the tallest sunflower stalk reaching for the ripest sunflower. The limb broke, he bit off the blossom and took it to the edge of the box and sat there eating the sunflowers as I watched. This went on for maybe 30 minutes. It became too cold and I headed for the house and some warmth. Summer heat is definitely over. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 7, 2014 at 8:56am

I'm also thinking of not bothering with watermelons anymore.  But so far, I plan on planting one kind in a new spot, and probably 2 kinds of muskmelons.  If I can't get a better tasting watermelon next year, I'll probably quit trying.

I'll keep trying muskmelons because I've gotten more taste from them than the watermelons.  

My new place to grow them will have about the same amount of sun, but will be warmer.  It will also be easier to cover them with  transparent plastic if cold weather is predicted.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 7, 2014 at 8:48am

Randy, I read that melons do not ripen further once they're off the vine.  Muskmelons can be softened and made more juicy, but the flavor does not improve.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 7, 2014 at 8:31am

Barbara, glad your tiller is everything you had hoped for. Spring can't come fast enough, right?!

Spud, my melons (musk and water) didn't turn out either. But they never do. I don't know why I bother. Won't they ripen on the counter after a week or so?

Don, sorry 'bout the deer. B. sprouts are a favorite of mine, but they didn't "bud" out this year for some reason. I plan on scattering soybeans on the garden in hopes they're germinate providing a ground cover and adding N to the soil. I see them sprouting in combined bean fields, so why not my garden?

I don't use a greenhouse, but my kids do. They have 5 long tunnels. Then again, that's what they do for a living. It is tempting. Let us know your decision.

Daniel, everything okay? We're missing you.

Comment by Don on October 6, 2014 at 10:33am

Yes, it's turning cold here in the north country.  I've still got carrots in the ground, plus arugula, dill, B. sprouts, and broccoli shoots--though the deer have been pleased to visit at night (as they never do during the height of the season) to nibble (or chomp) the tops of the B. sprouts and the broccoli leaves.  I've been putting up with it, but in another night or two they'll be down to the sprouts and then they'll hoof up my carrots.  So it's time to bring everything in and till.  Half the garden is in winter rye already. 

Anybody using a greenhouse?  A neighbor here put one up this summer--a 12-by-12 aluminum-frame job that he ordered online from Costco (Google it) for $2800.  He loves it.  I'm tempted.  If my new novel makes me some money, maybe I'll splurge.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 6, 2014 at 9:54am

Randy, thanks for reminding me to plant lettuce, Cauliflower & Broccoli next year. I hate paying what the store wants for an inferior product.

Barbara, I'm glad to hear how great your new rototiller is working for you.

I've not been posting because my garden has been disappointing this year, especially the watermelon.  I think the main problem was a week or more of cold wet weather in the middle of the summer, which I've read watermelon don't like. 

None of the muskmelons that I've eaten so far have been fully ripe.  They taste good, but are still hard, and could taste much better.  There are still melons on the vine, but it's doubtful I'll get any better.

There was a 32 degree F morning 3.5 weeks ago which killed a third of the watermelon leaves (the ones on the top of the hillocks).  That probably stopped any still on the vine from ripening further, but I'm letting them sit until the first frost below 32, to see what happens.

I did get a few watermelon that were fair to good tasting after they were cooled in the refrigerator.  I've discovered that fact is true.  They do taste better after refrigeration.

 

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