Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W Nov 3. 2 Replies

Permaculture Transformation In 90 Days

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 2. 4 Replies

A texas garden I never thought I would see!

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 30. 4 Replies

Backyard Organic Garden

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 29. 10 Replies

What the heck is hugelkultur? How does it save water?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Oct 29. 8 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2014 at 2:35pm

Spud, my guess is that last year's trees in pots are OK and only if you unwind the roots. As the tree grows, the roots will strangle each other if you do not unwind them.

The tree and shrubs that I have planted from pot-bound plants have survived very well if I pull the dirt out of the roots, then plant them on a mound in the hole I dug, spread the roots out over the mound, water them in, fill the hole with dirt, step on the soil firmly to get a good contact between roots and dirt. Build a little dam around the outside of the hole, soak the soil until the well is full and let it soak in. Continue to keep it moist as it grows new tiny roots.    

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2014 at 2:22pm

"Moles are a water animal. They're attracted to the wet soil," ... "It's easier to dig, and then they discover, wow, there's a lot of worms here."

~ Terry Siedelman, a longtime mole-catcher and the owner of The Mole Works in Portland, Ore.

Ridding your lawn of moles: What really works

My daughter has moles in her lawn and they have a continual struggle. They followed the advice of Sentient Biped to take the mole soil and put it in the planter boxes. Then they put in the mole killer device of the current trend; they still have moles. 

I have never had to deal with them. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2014 at 2:08pm

Spud, that is a great story! Properly cared for, things do produce, if the conditions are correct. 

I couldn't get apricots or peaches from my attempts in Spokane (USDA Zone 5b, -15 to -10 degrees F) because of freezes killing blossoms. I did everything, except put out smoke pots, and was not successful. Finally, cut them down.

My daughter's place is USDA Zone 5a with minimum temps of -20 to -15 degrees F. We are trying to figure out what fruit trees grow in this zone. 

I love gardening, it offers so many challenges and opportunities to experiment. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 24, 2014 at 1:42pm

Didn't know apricots were so hard to get to produce.  Besides the one I had here for 6 years, I had a small one in Concord California that produced abundantly. 

When I moved into the California house, I saw the poor looking thing that appeared to have had no water for years.  I watered it and pruned some branches out of the center to let light in.  

The next season it started producing large delicious apricots.  Because it was so shabby looking I was surprised at how fast it started producing.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 24, 2014 at 7:12am

Re apricot trees: Don't get me started! I planted two (catalogue ordered) about 25 years ago (Manchurian dwarf, if I remember correctly). One year, only ONE year, have I ever had apricots--and they were too wormy to eat. This winter, I pruned them back to "dwarf" size, hoping that would help. But this is the year of few fruit tree blossoms because of the severe winter. Maybe year #26, if I live that long!

Moles? Again, don't get me started!

Comment by king on May 23, 2014 at 8:23pm
Moles what to do
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 23, 2014 at 6:20pm

Spud, just read the interesting article about the smell of rain. Interesting! There is more to rain than I imagined. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 23, 2014 at 5:58pm

I don't remember the blossoms of mine ever being killed.

Comment by Daniel W on May 23, 2014 at 5:56pm
I think the problem here is it warms then frosts then warm then frosts. So the apricot blooms then wham! is killed. if it didnt wArm early, the blooming might be later and not be frosted. we keep trying tho. In Idaho you may have more suitable weather.
Comment by Idaho Spud on May 23, 2014 at 5:49pm

Daniel, thanks for the info.  I didn't even think about the old ones  being root-bound, but should have.

I think apricots will grow here.  I grew one for about 6 years before it died, but I don't think it's death had much to do with the weather.  This year, I've modified the soil to the best of my ability and have learned not to plant them too low.


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