Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on June 3, 2014 at 9:10am

We just got our first flush of strawberries from the raised bed.  Spring is earlier here.  We use everbearing strawberries for extended crop.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 3, 2014 at 9:09am

Spud, you beat me! I have lots of blossoms, no fruit yet. 

I hear you about the time it takes to become a good gardener. It is the little things that matter: soil, water, sun, food! 

I lived in Alaska for two years and the rose hips there were just splendid! So, they can grow in cold weather. I made rosehip jam with an Athabascan woman whose ancestors used them as part of their ancient diet. 

Problems with rosehips for me in my small garden is they are very thorny. The benefits are pretty roses, great rosehips and wonderful jams. Yes, there is such a thing as a thornless rose hip, and I suspect they do not have the flavor of the heirloom varieties. 


Comment by Daniel W on June 3, 2014 at 9:05am

king, why cant you weed?

Comment by Daniel W on June 3, 2014 at 9:04am

Joan I think I would love your weedy garden.  My main complaints with weeds are more due to what other people think about neatness, and not my own problem.  Although, I don't want them competing with desired plants, and that can be big issue.

My deck plants have a layer of some small leafed, tiny flowered weed. Now and then I pull them out.  They look really nice covering the surface of the soil.  My concern is grooming them, not eradicating them.

Joan I called in sick yesterday.  Only the 2nd time in the year since returning from surgery.  I felt pretty bad.  Today is off anyway. Summer dry season is setting in.  All I need to do is watering, and some grooming / weeding.  I think the tomatoes and peppers will get a newspaper or cardboard or straw mulch to keep the soil clean.  Not pretty but it doesn't matter.  We might have some black plastic around.  That would also work.

You and Cary dividing areas is sort of like me and Ning dividing areas.  I make sure to compliment him, like your neighbors complimenting Cary.  Ning's meadow and big flower garden are looking better every day.

I understand your energy challenge fully.  I am trying to keep my language framed positively.  "This is the challenge I deal with."  "These are my choices".  "This is how I will be proactive"  "What can I learn so it goes better?".

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 3, 2014 at 8:31am

Randall, I have not grown goji berries but am preparing a place for a couple of goji plants. I plan to espalier them on a north/south running fence. They need full sun, and I am hoping full afternoon sun will give them what they need. If not, I can move them.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 3, 2014 at 8:12am

Daniel, I know what you mean. I can't put in a full day of tending the garden. My energy simply gives out. I've worked out a rhythm that seems to work for me. I go into the garde after breakfast and do tasks until I get hungry, which is about noon. I am totally exhausted. There just is no energy left. I eat lunch, take a little nap and by two o'clock, I return to the garden and run out of energy after about an hour. I change tasks, thinking I can get some more tasks done, but there is no reserve upon which I can pull. So I come in, get a little rest and then make dinner. 

I don't know how you keep up working as hard as you do and add in the gardening. That is a heavy load while still on medication for cancer treatment. Gardening is a very good way to take one's mind off work and the problems of the world. 

Seeing the roses recover from a hard winter for them ... little snow and hard freezes interspersed with warm spells ... gives me encouragement. The weeds look very healthy and pretty; the problem is they go to seed very quickly before I can get them pulled. I asked Cary for help with pulling weeds that have gone to seed. I don't usually ask him for help in the back garden because I get so much pleasure from playing there. He has full responsibility for the front garden and neighbors and strangers comment on his fine work. 

Yesterday, a stranger came into the back garden because she had heard how pretty it is. She was dismayed to see all the healthy weeds growing there until I explained my one year sabbatical from physical activity while I battled cancer. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 3, 2014 at 7:55am

Randall, have you tried vinegar on weeds? You have to be careful because it will kill all living plants. On a driveway, you want to kill all living plants, so vinegar is your friend. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 3, 2014 at 7:46am

Spud, I'm with Daniel. I think you'll be okay. It's fertilized.

King, I only got .15" of rain. Boo. I continue to spray my brick driveway with weed killer, but I'm going to quit and use salt brine. Nice photo, by the way.

Comment by king on June 2, 2014 at 2:50pm

i cant weed :(

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 2, 2014 at 1:39pm

I don't use plant killers anymore.


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