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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 169
Latest Activity: 11 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Don on November 6, 2014 at 9:39am

Just scythed down the asparagus ferns and used a few to much the garlic--the last gardening chore of the season.  Nothing more to do now (except turn the compost another time or two) until April. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 6, 2014 at 9:28am

Plinius - I won't argue that in the right places moss is nice. I've even planted it at times. It's not quite so attractive on my driveway as it is in your picture though!

Randall - thanks for the "Wet and Forget" tip. (That's just begging for an off-color joke!)  I think I may try Daniel's suggestion of vinegar first. I actually have a gallon sitting around to clean my cpap machine.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 6, 2014 at 9:18am

Bertold, I use a product called "Wet and Forget" to rid my brick drive moss and roof lichen problems. It actually works! Expensive, however.

Daniel, I started my persimmon trees from seed. Having no idea which were "male or female", I could only plant and wait 'til maturity. It turned out that of the 6 I planted, four were male, two producing females. One little lady does very well, the other not too great. I should cut down two males, but I don't have the heart.

Comment by Plinius on November 6, 2014 at 2:09am

What's wrong with a little moss, Bertold? It's so beautiful!

Comment by Barbara Livingston on November 5, 2014 at 9:35pm

LOL Daniel, worm counters at Walmart ... The one thing I've noticed no matter what I read about worms farms everyone says not to over feed them. I gave them, coffee and tea grounds, banana, apple, and sprouted whole wheat bread all smooshed up in blender - about 3 Tbs to start. 

Bertold what are the growing conditions needed for moss?  I thought it was shade and moisture.  Does the moss grow on your pavement because it is so moist from rain?  

Comment by Daniel W on November 5, 2014 at 8:54pm

I let it grow thick then shave it off with a flat shovel.  That probably isn't what you want to hear.  If not wanting to use moss killer - bravo! - this writer has some ideas.  I would skip the bleach - too harsh - but she also mentions detergent and lime.

I wonder what would happen if you bought a gallon of vinegar, put it into a sprayer, and sprayed the moss?  Some people use vinegar as a week killer.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 5, 2014 at 8:14pm

Does anyone know a good way of inhibiting moss from growing on asphalt by any chance? My decrepit blacktop is looking more like greentop.

Comment by Daniel W on November 5, 2014 at 8:10pm

Oh, that's what happened!  I was interested to learn that Walmart had worm counters...   I wouldn't mind doing that. 

I think they reproduce pretty fast.  I hope in a month they will have a population explosion.

One thing worms really love is coffee grounds.  Sometimes I stop by Starbucks and ask for a bag of their used coffee grounds.  If they are not too busy, they will be happy to provide that, especially if I buy some coffee.  I also add grounds to compost.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on November 5, 2014 at 5:53pm

Daniel, I just bought two containers of the worms and counted them out when I got home.  I wanted to know how many I was starting with and I'm hoping in a month or so I may have more - a reflection that I've kept them alive. 

I have some acrylic paint pens and I also have alcohol ink which I can use on metal tags.

Comment by Daniel W on November 5, 2014 at 5:11pm

Barbara, you are very  resourceful!  I would never have thought to look at Walmart for worms.  I had to ask - do they count out the 72 worms?  They are squiggly little things, I hope they counted correctly!    I saw on another website people used paint-pens.  Maybe those were acrylic.  Those might be good on the stainless steel markers I already have that permanent marker wore off in less than a year.

Joan you are always so complimentary.  Thank you.  It is the members who make this such a good discussion.  I look every day.  The ginkgo doesn't seem to have gone through puberty yet.  I think it is close.  There are spur-like little stems on branches that look like good options for blooming.  I hope it is male because people are more likely to cut down the females with their stinky fruits.   Being male might give it a better future  - tree sexism?  Which I think it is a shame.

Chris, I love that you raised garter snakes!

Randy, pardon me for forgetting.  Do you have both male and female persimmon trees?  Obviously you have the females.  I read that the variety, "Meader" does not need a pollinator.


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