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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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Latest Activity: 2 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Stressed Bees

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Feb 12. 2 Replies

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6, 2014. 2 Replies

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Comment by Randall Smith on October 17, 2014 at 7:31am

Well, shoot. Here I thought adding pine needles was a smart thing to do. Live and learn. I'll probably still rake and spread them in the garden--or simply add them to the compost pile. Can't hurt.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 16, 2014 at 9:50am

I prefer my compost and if I don't have any, then pine needles for mulching because the rain goes strait through them without them becoming moldy. I thought I was adding to the acidity of the soil. Glad to know the truth. 

Daniel, your lovely sun room makes a delightful rain room. I like the trees outside, too. Like living in a forest. 

Barbara, isn't it nice to have peace in the house and have your little Rio and cat content. 

Čenek, you will have a wonderful year ahead of you with all that sauerkraut. The aromas waft through the house. I very much like the smell, some guests do not. Freshly homemade kraut provides a perfect taste and good healthy food. I didn't use heat. I put my reservoir of kraut in a cool basement sitting on the concrete floor. That worked for me. I wonder if the warmth is good for the flavor? I don't know. Never thought about that. 

Bertold, your photo reveals a lovely scene, tranquil with colors of autumn, the leaves, dogs and the healthy shrubs. 


Comment by Don on October 16, 2014 at 8:01am

I used to mulch my blueberries with pine needles, Randall, until an old berry man here told me it doesn't make a lot of difference.  Peat and other (artificial additives) are a lot better.

From GardenWeb:  "Research done by many people including Dr. Abigail Manynard at the UCONN Agricultural Research Station in New Haven, Conn, has shown that there is no significant change in soil pH after years of adding oak leaves or pine needles to that soil."

Comment by Randall Smith on October 16, 2014 at 7:06am

I'm surrounded by pine trees (for wind break), so I have pine needles, too. They're falling now. Since my garden is alkaline rich and acid poor, I spread the needles around every autumn. Perhaps it's working--my two surviving blueberry bushes made it through the summer!

Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 15, 2014 at 12:06pm

Bertold, I have a mesquite tree and raking the pods is very similar to your cedar chores. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 15, 2014 at 12:02pm

The downside of having cedar trees. This is almost a daily chore for the next month or so.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 13, 2014 at 12:41pm

Randall, comforting is the perfect word!  From the time my hit the floor in the morning until I turn out the light at night, it is comforting to know my little buddy is shadowing me. :) 

Cenek, I can offer no advice here except maybe an electric heating pad. The thought of 50 lbs. of cabbage boggles my mind.

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on October 13, 2014 at 12:24pm

I just finished processing 50 pounds of kraut-to-be. Used 1 pound of salt and a sprinkling of caraway seed. It took almost 5 hours to cut and masticate even though the kraut cutter saved me enormous amounts of work. Now the waiting begins. I have a light bulb under the crock and I'll be trying to maintain the temperature. Any tips?

Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 13, 2014 at 9:30am

Bertold, thanks for the assurance. I didn't realize how far my little Rio had withdrawn, also my cat. Last couple of days has seen an emergence of their funny personalities, so I know I did the right thing.  We three shall remain buddies with no further additions. :)

Daniel, I would simply love your room for a rainy day - curled up with a book and my pets.  However, sitting there in the sunshine in early morning and a cup of coffee would be equally wonderful.  I'm like others - envious, but happy for you. 

We have rain and 75F.  Once rain stops we are going out for a walk in the COOL!  

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 13, 2014 at 7:31am

Barbara - so sorry to hear you had to give up your dog, and she's a beauty. It's so hard, but it was the right decision - not fair for the smaller dog who got there first to be terrorized. I thought I might have a similar situation with my newest dog and the cat, but they've more or less negotiated detente.


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