Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Fruit Pests: Apricot

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Sunday. 3 Replies

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 24. 1 Reply

Change, the only constant

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 16. 4 Replies

Change, the only constant

Started by Joan Denoo Jun 15. 0 Replies

Favorite Flowers

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Randall Smith Jun 8. 8 Replies

The Evolution of Ecological Consciousness

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 4. 1 Reply

Living in the forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 27. 6 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 25. 17 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Daniel W on February 24, 2015 at 8:02am
Kathy I've also been thinking about butterfly weed becsuse for the same reasons. In 2012 I grew some I bought as plants. Very nice. The related plant I eoukd like to try is milkweed, if I find some seeds. Perennials take a lot of patience from seed so I only start a few types a year. Last year's hollyhocks and columbines have strong growth now, and the oriental poppies I started from divisions of an old plant, look strong. So I feel like I'm up for a few more.
Comment by k.h. ky on February 24, 2015 at 12:50am
Daniel, joe pye is named after Jopi an Indian healer. Per wikipedia.
They stuff grows wild around here. I'm going to try to transplant some this spring. I've transplanted several bright orange butterfly weeds from the roadside. They've done extremely well and are self sowing like mad. Monarch butterfly caterpillar ate them to the ground last summer. I didn't know they needed additional milkweed if the host plant was stripped bare. I doubt any of them made a change to monarchs since it seemed, to my inexperinced eyes, that they ran out of food.
Live and learn.
Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2015 at 2:01pm

The thing with the scooter is the batteries need to come out at minus 10*C. They don't like the cold &that is sort of the cutoff point. Other than that, I've had comments about snow tires, to skis, to snow blade, sled dogs, etc., etc. I'm already a laughing stock for what I've hauled home on it for Rick, a 6' ladder was the last one.

Comment by Daniel W on February 23, 2015 at 1:46pm

Joan, those reviews of Joe Pye Weed are encouraging.  I just send an order for some seeds.  Being perennial, might not bloom until next year, but plants are so expensive.   For some reason, I don't like the name "Joe Pye Weed", don't know why.  I do like "Eutrochium".  They are on lists of best pollen and nectar sources for bees, other beneficial insects, and butterflies, so a good one for me.

Last week and weekend I planted seeds for a big patch or borage, another of Phacelia, and another of crimson clover.  Same issue.  I want my place to be a garden of Eden for honeybees, bumblebees, and other beneficial insects.

Kathy, I've never grown Elephant ears.  I bet they are very tropical looking.   Now before I grow anything, I check on whether deer or rabbits like it.   Apparently Bambi does not like elephant ears, so that's  good.  I do have a few cannas.

Patricia, maybe you need to mount a snow-blower or snow-plow to your scooter?  I say a web item about a man with a motorized toilet with a snowplow attached.  Multitasking.

Comment by k.h. ky on February 23, 2015 at 10:53am
Funny Spud. Funny isn't bad to me. They were beautiful ears too. Anyone else grow them?
Comment by Idaho Spud on February 23, 2015 at 8:33am

Patricia, glad to hear you can ride again, and Rick can work in the greenhouse.  

My weather the last few days has been seasonably cold again, but the 3 weeks before that, it was very much warmer than average.  However, I still have the winter lazies and didn't get anything done outside.

Kathy, when you said you were thinking about your elephant ears, a picture of your face with pachyderm ears popped into my head.  Isn't that bad? : )

Comment by k.h. ky on February 22, 2015 at 4:52pm
I went wandering through the aisles in the gardening department. It got me thinking about my elephant ears. I've left them in the ground the last four years and they have always survived. A couple of years l forgot they were there until I spotted new growth peeking out of the ground.
If the cold is going to get them this will be the time. It's surprising they have made it this long. The last bulb l lost was a large one that something had eaten the bottom half of. I've never found out what it was. Never will l suppose.
Comment by Plinius on February 22, 2015 at 1:10am

Have fun going out, Patricia!

Comment by Patricia on February 21, 2015 at 11:59pm

Too busy listening to birds singing when I go out, can't compete with that....hahhaha......

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 21, 2015 at 11:56pm

Patricia, I am happy to read that your sidewalks and roads are friendly to you and your scooter. I can just see you zipping around like a bird free of its cage. Singing a little song, maybe. 


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