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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 173
Latest Activity: 20 hours ago

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Living in the forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 27. 6 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 25. 17 Replies

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies

Air-pots

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Randall Smith on February 4, 2015 at 7:46am

Oh you "fanatics"! Such complicated set-ups, Daniel!  I'm way too lazy to do all that. I've recently failed at trying to start radishes. They sprouted, then died. Every year I try to start early and fail. I say "never more". I'll just wait 'til April.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 3, 2015 at 12:53pm

My county extension agent said most plants need less than 8 hours darkness, so grow-lights can be left on for 16 hours.  I forgot why he said you might want to do that, but I think it would make the plants grow faster and be healthier.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 10:38am

Last comment on the indoor light growing - this is my setup.  It's a mess now because all I am growing is some fig cuttings.  Seed starting is a month or two away.

I have the lights on timers, 12 hours on / 12 hours off.

The side fixtures are also fluorescent desk lamps.  I had them sitting around, so added for the taller plants.

The lights are held on with bungee straps.   I have also used string, which works almost as well.

The stand is a wine rack / serving stand.  I have also used a similar looking pie stand, same idea.  Estate sales and goodwill can be good sources sometimes for these, or similar.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 10:21am

Internet is working now.  Here is the link on the CFL light project.  I liked the result a lot.  I added aluminum foil to the ends, to serve as reflectors.

As I recall, the tube lights cost a little less.  But - those did not have a reflector, so I used aluminum foil and taped it around my plant stand.  Kind of messy and ugly, but it worked.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 9:49am
On grow lights - I cant link right now because my internet is down. If you go to my blog, go to the index on right and find "light gardening", click on that - that is how I do it.

I have 2 setups. One uses CFL lights - the daylight type. My other setup is just 2 fluorescent fixtures, I think for under cabinet kitchen lights, around 12 or 14 watt. Again daylight spectrum. Both work very well for me, seedlings snd young plants.

They do not have to be commercial Groew Lights. The daylight spectrum works great for me and cost me much less.
Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 9:05am

Create living willow structures.    We have been sticking pussy willow sticks in the ground for 2 years, mid to late winter.  Most have taken root, but deer eat a lot of the growth.  Just a hedge.  Those structures are really cool.  I will tell Ning - I bet he will do it.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on February 3, 2015 at 8:56am

Joan, my biggest problem is that I often want to do something as "cheap and easy as possible".  However, painful as it has been, that often is not the best way. Nothing beats doing it correctly - i.e. laying the pavers in sand turns out the EASY way!  I had to re-set all the pavers for the rain barrels - and in a few months get to re-do my walkway.  In spite of all my mistakes, the sense of accomplishment when I've completed it correctly is immeasurable. Lesson learned late in life, but at least learned. :)

Cenek, the only really successful thing I've been able to grow from grocery store is chives and celery - and an avocado. Probably did not provide them adequate food/light as they never seemed to grow into healthy plants.

Re Runner Ducks - just amazing. Can you imagine having that many ducks following you?

Rain again here today - everything is soggy and muddy. Good day to read a gardening book. :) 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 3:28pm

p.s. Your plan sounds like a good one and similar to what I do to start plants. I like your idea of a blog, "A collection of mistakes." It would be helpful to have "A collection of Remedies" as well. 

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on February 2, 2015 at 2:09pm

I've been trying to sprout pomegranate seeds from store-bought fruit. I think that perhaps they are hybrid and I'll have to buy saplings. Which is probably all for the better anyway.

Pomegranates should do very well in my dry and windy climate. Also the soil pH here is ideal.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 12:55pm

Barbara, my answer to grow-lights, YES !! you definitely need to increase the candlepower, even in Texas. I started seeds for my gardens in Alaska, Washington, DC, San Antonio, El Paso, Killeen Texas and Washington state. You can get seeds to sprout with a south facing window, however, after the seedlings get past the cotyledon phase, they will need the energy of the sun or more candlepower from lights to make a nice, lush, robust plant.   

 

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