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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius on Saturday. 2 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W on Saturday. 2 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Plinius Apr 15. 13 Replies

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on February 16, 2013 at 11:48am

Annie, this type of hive has bars along the top - not in this photo - that honey bees use to hang their combs from.  It's called a "top bar hive".  It does not have frames per se.  There is less re-use of honeycomb with this hive, which means it's more sanitary for the bees.  Since they make more new comb, which requires energy, there is less honey.  Proponents think it's healthier for the bees.

Today, planning on planting some potatoes, and getting started on setup of another raised bed for vegetables.  If it is all together this weekend, some more peas, onions, and cole crops as Spud is planning.  Better get busy.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 16, 2013 at 10:20am

Sentient, I also love the natural cedar wood.  A few months ago, my neighbor put up a very beautiful short cedar fence, which made me say wow!  Most attractive fence I've ever seen!  Then, a week later, I looked out and found it painted it a very dark brown, and I said Oh No! Ugly!

Joan, you got me thinking.  Right away I think I'll start some peas, garlic, onion and several kinds of Cole crops.  It got to 50 degrees here last week and I see at least one of my cauliflower plants that never produced a curd last fall is still alive, so perhaps it will this year.

Comment by Annie Thomas on February 16, 2013 at 6:38am

Sentient- what a gorgeous beehive!  I have never seen that style either.  Does it have frames that go inside each of the compartments?  Or something else? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 16, 2013 at 12:32am

Sentient, that is a beautiful beehive; never seen one like that before. Is there some other wood preserver than white paint. I, like you, like the wood color. Is wood stain harmful to bees? 

Oh! there are many beehives with your shape. I have never seen them before. 

bee hives for sale

Your "Peach Cobbler" is so pretty. 

Comment by Daniel W on February 15, 2013 at 11:02pm

Joan, thanks for the link on the grafting.  I will take a grafting class in a couple of weeks, so maybe my skills will improve.

Meanwhile here's my latest project.  It's from a kit - I'm not that skilled.  This type of beehive is considered more "natural" than  the usual ones - more organic for the bees, so less use of chemicals.  

I think I'll paint it white to keep it cooler and help it last longer.  Kind of hate to - I love the appearance of the cedar wood.

Been planting dutch clover and crimson clover in all of the lawn bare spots to provide nectar for the honey bees.  Also planted some Buddleia, a new seedless hybrid.  The hope is to provide more nectar.  The seeded ones are banned in WA and OR because of invasiveness.  This one is called "Peach Cobbler", supposedly grows up to 6 ft tall.  The beneficial insects should like it.

Thanks for the comment on the covered bed.  Radishes starting sprouting as of Thurs - hoping to see pea sprouts soon too.  Almost instantly, I also took over a row in the covered bed to start rose cuttings and also some buddleia cuttings.

Hope your warmer weather continues too!

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2013 at 10:14pm

Sentient, I really like the looks of your conestoga wagon! Just perfect! I suppose you have lots of things peeking up now. Our deep cold broke this week and today was almost 50 degrees. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2013 at 10:12pm

Amer, isn't it fun to share ideas with others!? A very nice way to build friendships, even if it is half way round the world. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2013 at 10:08pm
Spud, it is almost time for me to start seedlings. We had 50 degree weather today and most of the snow is melted; only patches in the garden here and there in shady spots. I have a load of well composted manure ready to spread on the beds before the ground thaws. Oh! I am so ready!
Comment by Idaho Spud on February 10, 2013 at 2:00pm
Comment by amer chohan on February 9, 2013 at 8:37am

Joan there is so much creativity arround that every time one wonder about freshness of the idea. I am definatly learning a lot by hanging about. Thanks for the posts.


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