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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 173
Latest Activity: 2 hours ago

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Living in the forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud yesterday. 6 Replies

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Monday. 17 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Dominic Florio on March 23, 2013 at 6:09pm

So we were discussing trees and mowing.  Part of the reason why I bought my property six years ago was because of the big trees.  It is hard to grow most things in the full sun in Fl.  These are pics from around the property, two days after mowing and no raking.  I never rake.  The mowed leaves quickly return to the soil.

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 23, 2013 at 9:56am

Sentient- I am just starting out.  We are converting an old greenhouse into a coop.  My friend just picked up four already-laying cuckoo marans for me.  She's being kind enough to house them with her flock until the coop is ready.  Next time I'll get chicks, but the timing wasn't right.

I'm not sure how long the charge lasts.  I can mow my front and back (about 40 minutes total) on one charge, but I haven't done that it a few years (I now do the back one day and the front on another).   The mower is now several years old and I was worried the battery would not hold a charge as long as it aged, but so far so good!

Comment by Daniel W on March 23, 2013 at 9:17am

Annie, do you already have chickens or starting out?  They are one of my favorite garden denizens.

How long does the charge last on your mower?

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 23, 2013 at 9:04am

Idaho-  those are dragon tongue beans.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 23, 2013 at 8:29am

Annie, what are those short plants with large leaves in the back right part of your back 40?

Comment by amer chohan on March 22, 2013 at 10:29pm

Opuntia in rich soils and by fertilization grow very fast and its lower leaves or stem can't support the upper leaves(mine is in danger of that as it is showing overgrowth). So they tend to fall over. It happens to all opuntias, a little more in case of microdasys. I got my problem solved by introducing them to poor soil and having limmited growth.

Its not consistant watering habbit which matters in case of damage to cactus plant. One overwatering espacially watering or rain in winter is enough to destroy whole year's effort.

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 10:19pm

I do!  We get to see a bunch of them.  Years ago, a friend gave me a bunch of luna moth caterpillars for my classroom.  Each child had a caterpillar, and I would bring in fresh sweet gum leaves each day.  We had so much fun watching them create their chrysalis (sorry, I don't know the plural form), and then watching them hatch.  

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 10:04pm

The pods are certainly a detractor... especially if you like to walk barefoot.  I dislike them because mature trees topple easily.  The large surface area of the leaves collects a lot of water after a rainstorm, and they have rather shallow roots.  I used to live across the street from a park that had about 50 sweetgums.  They were beautiful and produced wonderful shade, but at least one would fall each year.  The ones in my lot, if they fell westward, would land on my house.  That, and the leaves create just one more raking season, as they fall when nothing else does around here.  I live in an old house in an old neighborhood.  It creates a lot of work, but I love it.  My yard feels like an aviary every morning and late afternoon!

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 9:54pm

Dallas-  Under the magnolias I have azaleas, palms, ferns, and many weeds. ;-)  I'm on a half acre lot and have the two magnolias in the front corners, two live oaks in the back corners, and then 30+ mature pines, sweetgum (which I don't like one bit other than they are the larval plant for luna moths), and many fruit trees and palms.  I am always raking up one thing or another.  I grew up in Chicago, where you rake once a year. I try not to get aggravated by the leaves as I really enjoy having so many mature trees.

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 7:59pm

I have a Neuton mower, which is battery powered.  It's so quiet I hear the grass being snipped, but it's not powerful enough to suck up and mulch the leaves.  After raking, I do use the leaves as mulch around the yard.  I have magnolias in the front, so I do prefer the live oak leaves to those.  I hope I am done with raking for a bit.  I need to get to work on my chicken coop!


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