Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry on Friday. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston on Thursday. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on August 7, 2012 at 11:55am

Figs at last!  There should be lots more.  I wait until they are very soft, sometimes dripping with nectar.  Then are so sweet, like eatinb honey.  The green ones are "King", sometimes called "Desert King".  The black ones are "Petite negri"  Cell phone shown for size reference.

Comment by Daniel W on August 7, 2012 at 11:52am

Joan, I love that we have ladybugs to do our work for us!  They do a great job, too.  So do a lot of birds.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 5, 2012 at 8:46pm

It is 6:12 PM and I am in the garden with the birds and Ladybug adults I released in my garden last night. The sky is full of them; one is on my back as I write. Oh joy!  Also released Chrysoperla rufilabris lacewing eggs and should be engulfed by them in a few days. 

Watch out aphids, mealybugs, scales, whiteflies, thrips, spider mites and  Colorado potato beetles, your days are numbered. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 2, 2012 at 10:37pm

Sentient Biped, I am not a witness to murderous raccoons, but the beloved neighbor cats sit under the bird feeder and catch a lovely bird every now and then. I tried putting a wire fence around the base of the feeder, but something, perhaps raccoons, bent it all out of shape. I shall have to put my creative energy to work and protect my little feathered visitors better. 

Comment by Daniel W on August 2, 2012 at 9:17pm

Joan, your garden is absolutely beautiful.  I love it.  It looks so beautiful and peaceful.  I imagine the hummingbirds love the monarda. 

Im not a fan of racoons.  They've murdered 2 of my chickens.  Chickens are a lesson in life and death, since one of the hens was also a serial killer. 

Annie, I wonder if the potted fig is overgrown for it's pot?  Mine do not lose leaves after producing figs.  Im in Zone 8 pacific northwest, which is probably quite different form Zone 8 florida.  Don't know what to say about the figs - they are pretty tough.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 2, 2012 at 9:09pm

Annie Thomas, Thank you for your nice compliment.  Every inch of ground is planted and I wanted peas and beans; so I created the stack of clay pots with nice rich soil and they grow beautifully this way. Beans are green, yellow and purple in one stack and Snow peas in another. The one flaw ... they are beasts to keep watered. So my grand experiment, although producing delicious legumes, is a pain in the back. The other stack is for the birds. It kept tipping over so I used bamboo to stabilize it. Squirrels, raccoons and skunks like to get their fresh water from that stack and they create havoc. Squirrels come while I am sitting near by, but they are tame. The raccoons and skunks arrive at night and I don't usually see them. But there are tracks and tipped over clay pots, giving evidence of their presence. 
There is not one blade of mowable grass on my place; it is heavily planted to attract birds and animals. 

Comment by Annie Thomas on August 2, 2012 at 6:32pm


Your fig looked great!  Do you know if it is normal for a fig tree to lose its leaves after fruiting?  I am "plant sitting" several potted plants for a friend.  One is a fig tree.  We enjoyed several of the figs (the ones we beat the squirrels to), but now it is done and the leaves have all fallen off.  It looks like there are buds on the branches, but I've never had a fig and wonder if this is normal, or if I'm killing my friends plant. I'm in zone 8, Northern Florida.

Comment by Annie Thomas on August 2, 2012 at 6:30pm

What a gorgeous garden Joan!  So much depth and color.  And 79 degrees??  That sounds like our Florida winters. ;-)  I'm thinking about my fall plantings for vegetables already, and can't wait to dig into the soil again. 

In the second photo, you have what looks like a fountain made of flower pots?  Do you grow something in there, or is that a water feature?  It's all very lovely, thanks so much for sharing!

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 2, 2012 at 6:17pm

Loved the Paw Paw photos and song. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 2, 2012 at 6:17pm

Photos taken this afternoon. The temperature is nice, 79 degrees with a slight breeze. Nothing new in the photos, just maturing plants. 


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