Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6, 2014. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1, 2014. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30, 2014. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16, 2014. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8, 2014. 21 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 7, 2012 at 11:25pm

Regina M, growing herbs is so much fun and rewarding. I live in USDA zone 5 in Spokane, WA. Many of my herbs are annual here and some reseed so I don't have to bother about buying them, I just collect what I need for next year and let the birds have the rest. The only herbs I like and you haven't listed are

Parsley, I grow lots of it, all over the garden because it is so delicious and pretty and easy to dry for winter use. It also grows all winter if there is a sheltered place. Sometimes I dig under the snow to get enough for Yule turkey stuffing. 

Borage, an incredible blue flower that self-seeds. It dies back every winter leaving behind some nice seeds for the birds.

Caraway and coriander made such pretty plants, beautiful leaves, nice big juicy seeds that self-sow. 

Dill is a must for a lot of dishes, especially Scandinavian recipes. It tastes good just to chomp on as wandering along the pathways. 

Fennel, a wonderful plant, an annual here. It grows about 6 feet tall in my garden and the bees cover it with their lovely soft sounds. 

Thyme, many kinds, flavors and colors. Very easy to dry for winter. Some plants survive, seeds always self-sow. 

I agree with Sentient, Peppermint, Spearmint, Catmint, invade aggressively but kept in pots around the garden are pure joy. 

I don't have any luck with Rosemary, although I love the flavor. It is an annual here, and I can't seem to keep it inside more than a month or so. 

Happy Herb gardening. 

Comment by Daniel W on November 7, 2012 at 6:40pm

Idaho Spud, you are right about the mushrooms.  Very observant!  There are several big patches of mushrooms popping up, now that the fall rains have started.  Not going to eat them.  No idea what's toxic and what's not.

Comment by Daniel W on November 7, 2012 at 6:38pm

Regina, it's about what ever you enjoy!  Herbs and flowers are cool!  

Your choices are great!  flavor-wise, basil is my favorite, but I also love rosemary.  Mints are invasive weeds here (zone 8) but I grow them anyway for the smell and for their friendliness to beneficial insects and bees.  Lemon balm is also invasive here, but nice to smell the leaves.  The hens won't eat lemon balm leaves.

I like letting mints invade the lawn so I can smell it when I mow.  Not that I have much lawn.  

My parents grew basil in Illinois as an annual.  Fresh, it's amazing on tomatoes.  I love eating basil.  You can get it in green and purple, small leaf and big.  I like the standard big leaf basil.  Great for pesto.

With culinary herbs, there aren't a whole lot of them, so you can collect "almost everything" pretty quickly.  

Lavender is another one that smells great, but may not survive Zone 5 winters.  

Violets would fit nicely with herbs, are perennial, and the flowers are edible.  

Comment by Regina M on November 5, 2012 at 3:09pm

I have to make a confession. I recently had an epiphany about my garden: I don't give a hoot about vegetables. So next year, I'm going to expand the perennial herbs into three rows instead of one, grow more flowers, and maybe stick a tomato and pepper plant in there for giggles. I have a huge asparagus patch that I've been waiting to be able to pick (next spring-woohoo!), and maybe I'll put in some lettuce/radish/arugula so there will be some veggies. But no more multiples of anything, no more "I will take over your garden whether you like it or not" cherry tomatoes, no more beans. I buy or trade for veggies at the farmers market (I'm a vendor), so getting them isn't an issue. I want to concentrate on the herbs! So does anyone have suggestions for things that are out of the ordinary? What I have so far: chives (regular and garlic), oregano, sage (russian, purple, and something else that might be dead), lovage, english thyme, sorrel, marjoram, french tarragon, peppermint. I'm in the mid-west, zone 5.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 5, 2012 at 2:08pm

Sentient, what a beautiful pile of leaves.

Are those mushrooms in the lower left corner of the picture?

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 4, 2012 at 10:36pm

Annie, yes, this is an especially satisfying site. Sentient has a lovely group of friends. Working full time is hard on gardening chores, and on the other hand, it is a nice way to unwind from work duties. 
I am glad you are with us. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 4, 2012 at 10:33pm

Sentient, wonderful to read your post! Really enjoy the photo and those lovely autumn colors. You will have a very nice supply of compost with your leaves. Great buy on the Linden, 
Our winter weather forecast is wetter and not as cold. That means death to many of my oldest plants; perhaps all the ones that don't like those condition have already died out and my garden will settle out nicely next spring. Cary put extra layers of pine needles on the vulnerable ones.  

Comment by Annie Thomas on November 4, 2012 at 6:22pm

I am enjoying reading about everyone's gardening projects!  I went back to work full-time this fall, and my garden will have to wait until spring.  I am glad I can vicariously plant and harvest through your wonderful posts!

Comment by Daniel W on November 4, 2012 at 6:12pm

Joan, I'm loving this time of year too.  Unusual for me.  The planning is great!  Also building raised beds.  Still time to construct a couple/few more for next Spring.  


Also, looking for seed sources for open pollinated varieties that will best suit this climate.  Ones I can save seeds from in the future.  Maybe.  I think I understand that better than I ever did.  Still so much to learn!  Excited about some new experiments.  Short/cool season melons, bush snow peas.  Maybe pushing the envelope with some short season okra.


What does it take to make me happy?

Those compact spruces are about 4 feet tall. The big leaf maple has about 1/3 of it's leaves remaining. This is my Christmas! Leafmas!


I found another little linden tree.  It's about 8 feet tall, marked down from $39.99 now $8.00.  It will need corrective pruning the next couple of years.  No central leader.   I can do it.  I read that linden pollen makes especially good honey.  Good root mass.  Stout trunk.  Planted it today

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 2, 2012 at 12:08am

Good resource for heirloom seeds and instructions. 

Grow Your Own Heirlooms

Oh boy, I love this time of year, seed catalogues are coming in, this past summer's garden is tucked away and no more outside chores until April and May. Seed starting begins in Feb-March for me. 


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