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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 172
Latest Activity: 15 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W May 2. 2 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 2. 1 Reply

Good plants that volunteer.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Plinius Apr 15. 13 Replies

Rooftop Gardens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 3. 20 Replies

How to Make a Food Forest Suburb

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 1. 1 Reply

Fantastic Fungi - a film by Louie Schwartzberg

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 28. 1 Reply

Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Mar 22. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on March 24, 2013 at 10:06am

Chris, the clivias are beautiful!  We grow them too.  So dramatic and durable.  We let them go dry for the winter, then start watering in spring. Thank you for posting!

Comment by Plinius on March 24, 2013 at 7:30am

Isn't it nice that we have an atheist flower? Clivia miniata or kaffir lily: kaffir is Arabic for unbeliever. Mine flowers like mad.

Comment by Plinius on March 24, 2013 at 2:02am

I love your garden, Dominic! Can your Platycerium live outside the whole year round?

I'll upload some pictures of my ´garden´, when it turns green -  it's a long wait for spring this year.

Comment by Dominic Florio on March 24, 2013 at 12:42am

Wow!  Happy and safe cats as well as happy and safe birds.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2013 at 12:31am

Thanks Dominic. Lots of ideas for keeping cats in and out. Now here is a doozie ... must be real cat lovers:

the walkway to the new cat sanctuary

This walkway from house to garden really indicates a devotion to their cats! 

Comment by Dominic Florio on March 24, 2013 at 12:18am

Anyone who wants to make the journey is welcome for lunch.  Wouldn't that be great.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2013 at 12:12am
Sentient, how exciting to have a Florida-Washington state connection of natural planting to preserve wild life refuge. I am so please to know you two fellows. You each set a high standard and one worthy of aspiring toward.
With all your fig starts, Sentient, you will have a virtual orchard and a great place for bees to restore their population. I like that you tilled up your lawn, and put in wildflowers. Surely your seeds will grow and multiply each year.
Clearing out the natural berries is quite a job ... not a task just anyone would take on. A beautiful growth of ivy can be very pretty but it can get out of hand.
How are you feeling Sentient? Getting some relaxation into your already busy schedule? I'm thinking about you and generating all the positive thoughts I can.
Comment by Dominic Florio on March 23, 2013 at 11:30pm

Joan, do an internet search and see if the fencing would suit you.  I had mine built, but I designed it.  Internet searches would give you ideas.  To be honest, I designed mine on my own, based on what I had seen in zoos.  You can have whatever type fence you like, but the top must tilt in, so that a climbing cat cannot get over it.  Another idea is to have the fence of your choice, but to line the perimeter with the "invisible fence".  The cats wear a color which gives a shock if they get close to the wire.  I like the tilted in top the best, but as I said, it can be bought or made to fit any fence. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 23, 2013 at 11:06pm
Dominic, I am really impressed. The way you combined textures and scaffolding of trees and shrubs looks so natural, yet not wild. To think you planted all that in six years is quite extraordinary. It appears to be natural, yet the critters have safe places to be free of the fang and claw of wild land.
You answered all my questions; except I have one more: how do you design a cat proof fence. I might be able to do that in my south garden.
Your design is fit for some kind of natural conservancy designation.
Comment by Daniel W on March 23, 2013 at 10:25pm

Sounds like you've created your own Eden.  Wonderful!

We are doing a Northwest variation on that theme but barely started.  Two weeks ago we tilled up some big sections of lawn and seeded over it with wildflower seeds.  Threw in some not-so-wild flowers in the mix, like various poppy cultivars and snapdragons.  No idea if they will actually grow.

Some of the intent with wildflowers is attract beneficial insects, and some is to feed honeybees.  Countdown to installing hive.... 1st or 2nd week of April the bees arrive.  Everything is ready except I might not be.  Cross that bridge when we come to it.

We can hear frogs at night.  There are lots of birds.  Also plated for hummingbirds that visit frequently in the Summer.

Invasive species here:  English Ivy and Himalayan blackberries.  We pulled out all of the ivy but the blackberries are so prolific, removing them is like removing thorny kudzu.  Plus, the berries are delicious and the flowers...  more nectar for honey.  So I'm not being aggressive pulling it out.  



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