Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture here, here,here, here, here, here, here, here. Food forest.

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

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Comment by Steph S. on August 25, 2012 at 12:29pm
Sentient those are some great looking plums from your garden! Wow! How wonderful!
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 25, 2012 at 11:11am

S.B., wonderful photos of your fruit and I especially like your comments about this summer's conditions and your solutions.  Two acres! Heaven! How come you still have grass? It is such a waste of time, money, energy, and I like perennials, shrubs and trees better. Your plant choices sound like some beautiful days ahead for you and your family and friends. A garden seems to be a great attractor to everyone, especially as different things come into season. 

Right now, blueberries are almost gone - they give me a lovely cup of fruit every morning and they are in a cool part of the garden, so I just stand, pick, eat and enjoy their loveliness.  

Talked to a goat farmer Thursday at the Farmers Market and he showed me before and after photos of a thicket turned into a nice place to enjoy. He has all kinds of fruits and vegetables and flowers and goats. Oh! Oh! have to keep an eye on the goats, but with careful management, he has the best of all worlds. 

You probably have rosemary and lantana growing all year long outside. We can't, and I have been unsuccessful in growing rosemary inside. It is one of my favorite flavors.

I harvested sage yesterday and it is so healthy, and pretty, and delicious. I have it drying now.

Do you have a good way to store garlic without it drying out or rotting? This year I am going to put them in small Rx bottles with oil and freeze them; what do you think? Do you have a good procedure? 

Will Hollywood Plums come from seed? 

Worm pods came in; There should be an abundance of worms in a short time. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 25, 2012 at 7:28am

I forgot to say, it's Hubbard squash I do this with.  I planted two kinds this year, and don't know which ones I'm eating so far.  I've also got several other kinds of winter squash on the fence that I haven't tried eating the young ones yet.  But, I'll have to try it.

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 25, 2012 at 7:19am

I'm eating young winter squash as if they were summer squash again this year.  I tried it last year and found they tasted just as good as Zucchini and possibly as good as the yellow crook-neck I used to grow (I didn't plant any summer squash this year).

I grow large winter squash that love to climb the chain-link fence.  If I let them grow squash on the fence, they get so heavy that they eventually fall off, ripping the vines apart when they do it, so I remove them before they become large and throw them in the compost pile.  

Last year, I tried netting one on the fence, but didn't do it right, so it fell off.  This year I tried netting two, and so far it seems to be working, but it's a little too much trouble, so next year I'm going to keep them from climbing the fence until they start developing some squash on the ground.

Anyway, last year, I finally wondered how they would taste, and fried them like Zucchini.

I'm sure others have done this, but I've not heard of it.  How about you peeps?

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 25, 2012 at 6:48am

Mmmmmm, makes my mouth water!

I'm doing OK with the heat.  I get my exercise before sunup, and get my outside work done before the head sets-in, so I'm good.  My plants are thriving also (once I started giving them enough water).

Comment by Daniel W on August 25, 2012 at 12:51am

Hollywood Plums - if you hate grocery store plums, you may still love these.  The tree-ripened plums are 1000X better!

Comment by Daniel W on August 16, 2012 at 10:20am

Hot and Dry!

I cant complain, other parts of the country are hotter and dryer, much worse.  Still, it's been 90s to low 100s here.  My area doesn't usually rain in the Summer.  I let the lawn go brown - it greens up in the fall.  Precious water goes to veggies and "prime" plants, and newly planted items.

We closed on the 2 acres in the country.  Wanting to get a head start, I bought a few items, and planted some young fig trees that I've been nursing in pots for a few years, and 2 small columnar apples found at the nursery on closeout.  These were all in containers, so transplanting is less traumatic to the plants, compared to bare root trees.  Holding the PawPaws for later.  Lots and lots of mulch, and a gallon of water, or two, or 4, every other day, for each little tree.  So far no wilting, after 3 weeks.

Most of the new stuff is arid-friendly "xerotolerant".  Lavender, sage, Monarda/Bee balm, rosemary, oregano, yarrow, lantana.  As it happens, these are also deer resistant, if not repellant.  Deer chomping trees shrubs and plants to death is a problem in the countryside.

Lots of mulch for everything, to keep in the moisture.  I bought a few truckloads of yard waste compost, which is light and serves as a soil insulator when dry and used as mulch, and improves soil water retention when mixed into the soil.

How's everyone coping with the heat? 

Comment by Daniel W on August 7, 2012 at 11:55am

Figs at last!  There should be lots more.  I wait until they are very soft, sometimes dripping with nectar.  Then are so sweet, like eatinb honey.  The green ones are "King", sometimes called "Desert King".  The black ones are "Petite negri"  Cell phone shown for size reference.

Comment by Daniel W on August 7, 2012 at 11:52am

Joan, I love that we have ladybugs to do our work for us!  They do a great job, too.  So do a lot of birds.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 5, 2012 at 8:46pm

It is 6:12 PM and I am in the garden with the birds and Ladybug adults I released in my garden last night. The sky is full of them; one is on my back as I write. Oh joy!  Also released Chrysoperla rufilabris lacewing eggs and should be engulfed by them in a few days. 

Watch out aphids, mealybugs, scales, whiteflies, thrips, spider mites and  Colorado potato beetles, your days are numbered. 


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