Godless in the garden

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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in no particular order:
Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.
Frugal gardening.
Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.
Growing Fruits
Why buy locally-grown plants?
Squirrels.
bees.
Cheap gardening.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.
Buy locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.
Grow lots of fruits in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.

Discussion Forum

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sepp Holzer´s Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Nov 6. 1 Reply

Permaculture, John D. Liu

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 3. 8 Replies

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Comment by Idaho Spud on October 21, 2014 at 11:11am

Randy, do you save some sweet potatoes for planting next year?

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on October 20, 2014 at 9:01am

Nice looking spuds! I always wonder what happens to all the little ones that are grown commercially since the only the largest appear in stores. 

Comment by Randall Smith on October 20, 2014 at 7:36am

Here's about half the sweet potatoes I dug up. I forgot to take a picture of the loaded persimmon tree.

Comment by Daniel W on October 19, 2014 at 3:36pm

I love hummingbirds too.  They are the main reason I grow crocosmia, they fight over that flower. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 19, 2014 at 3:16pm

I love hummers - I had scads of them all summer this year. They're almost hypnotic; I could sit and watch them for hours.

Comment by Daniel W on October 19, 2014 at 2:42pm

Those frittilaries are part of your garden evolution!  The ones that did not come back are like the dinosaurs, but left no fossils.   I've had so many plants that failed to thrive.  Meanwhile, others prosper and proliferate.  Some, too well.  I think I've tried to grow Crown Imperials in the past and they didn't make it.  Added them to a raised bed last year, thinking they would have better drainage and might be a deer repellent.  They were nice, but fleeting.   I hope to see them in the Spring, they are quite dramatic.

 

I thought of you and your experiences when I read Chalker-Scott's book.  I haven't listened to them, but she also has a podcast.  If I can download them, I can listen while driving.  I am kind of defensive about organic gardening - as an overall system, I think it's better for everyone than chemical-based gardening - but I understand her take on it and I am not a fundamentalist organic gardener. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 19, 2014 at 2:15pm

Daniel, I planted many different kinds of fritillaries and a season or two, they all disappeared, except two "Crown Imperials".I have them in my "Grotto garden" which isn't a cave or water spring. It is a dark part of my garden where the sun never penetrates, except in this one spot at the edge where the morning sun light touches the ground. 

I just looked up "The Informed Gardener" and found an amazing author, scientist, gardener, Linda Chalker-Scott. For an audio of her reading, go to:

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0295987901/ref=pd_luc_rh_mrairec_0...

I am impressed. A book is coming and a Kindle book by her just arrived. She has a chapter on the Myth of Organic Superiority.

The reviews of her and her books stand out as good sources for the scientific aspect of gardening. I like debunking myths. 

She has a degree from WSU as well as others. She and I must have walked the same greenhouses and barns and shoveled manure onto the ground of the WSU President's House. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 19, 2014 at 1:25pm

Randy, you probably know all this information, however, here is a site that defines alternative methods of vole control. 

Voles (Meadow Mice)

I guess I am going to have to get rid of my lovely mice population with vegetables replacing shrubs. Gardening is a give and take situation. I guess I could create a mice box if I really wanted to watch them. No, I already have enough stuff to watch. 

My visiting cat population is down; their families moved away and the other cats in the neighborhood are indoor cats. 

Comment by Daniel W on October 19, 2014 at 9:25am

Randall, I'm jealous of your sweet potatoes!  During my attempt - the plants I ordered baked in the mailbox.  Once they recovered -some - slugs had a "eat all you can buffet".  So I'm yet to have any.  Maybe try again next year....

 

My 2 persimmon trees - one Asian, one Asian/American hybrid - look very healthy but may be a few years from fruiting.  The Saijo Japanese persimmon is 7 feet tall now.  Maybe...  The Nikita's Gift hybrid is only about 5 feet, but looks very healthy.  Persimmons have nice tropical appearing leaves, and great fall color.

 

Joan, what type of fritillaries have you grown?  This year I was happy to have 2 "Crown Imperials" in bloom.  Prior attempts were not fruitful.  These were in raised bed, might be why they survived.  I planted them to repel varmints - quite stinky!  Handsome flower, too.

 

Book review added today to topics, "The Informed Gardener".  I liked this book.

 

Transplanted some young tree starts yesterday.   One might be too traumatized to survive, but we'll see.  This is the perfect time to plant trees!  Main problem - big box store and nursery trees may be root bound from a season in containers.  The roots will need to be pruned, unbound, and set free, if that is the case.

 

 

Comment by Randall Smith on October 19, 2014 at 8:11am

Nice sweet potatoes I dug up! This is the first year in many that voles didn't decimate them. Of course, I rotate crops, so perhaps they didn't find them. No frost, by the way. And I dug them in a cold drizzly rain. Miserable and muddy. But that's gardening!

Daniel, the persimmons are ripening. I had to prop up the whole tree. Only one tree out of the 6 I have produced 'simmons. I know four are male, but the other female refused to cooperate.

Yes, Don, I love the progression of your photos. I know Mt. Washington is noted for its record breaking winds. Are you windward or leeward from the Mt.?

Barbara, it's fun to read about your passion for gardening! It still astounds me that nobody I know grows fruits and vegetables in their back yard. I mean, how difficult is it to stick a tomato plant in the ground, or sow a row of carrot seeds, etc.? Show us a photo of your stone work, if possible.

 

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