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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 172
Latest Activity: on Friday

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 4, 2013 at 11:51am

The lovely blues and lavenders look perfect for your bees. I am not familiar with Lavatera "Barnsley". Does it reseed? It looks a little bit like Mallow; mine is in full bloom now, a pretty white color in my white bed. It reseeds profusely, but is controllable.

I have been wondering if you could keep up your work load. Some people have a difficult time retiring, and you have so many lovely things to look after, I suspect you will do just fine.

Your description of bees being active in your garden with all the lovely plants provides a nice scene for just sitting and watching. My favorite thing.   

Comment by Daniel W on July 3, 2013 at 10:28pm

Yum, tomatoes and okra!  I love both!  My little okras are sulking. I keep telling them "but you love heat!  What do you want?"

Joan, glad to hear you are doing well with the chemo.  You are in my  mind a lot.

Last week I was at the nursery and saw bees on a Caryopteris "Blue Mist" so I bought it.  Also a half-gallon-sized  "Goodwin Creek Grey"  lavender plant.    Bees love lavender.  Plus lavender is dry tolerant, it grows very well here, deer and rabbits avoid it, and the fragrance is amazing.  Added both to the apiary garden.  It's hot and dry, but both are tough.  With some mulch and weekly watering they should make it.  Also a Lavatera "Barnsley" which was on sale in the TLC section but is perking up after repotting.  The nursery and bee garden are therapeutic for me.  This pic is off the wikimedia commons, Carypteris doesn't photograph well but looks a lot like lavender.

File:Caryopteris clandonensis B.jpg

Today I told my supervisor it's just a matter of time before quit, I cant take the workload.  I feel bad about it, and work gives my life meaning, and I said that too.  But they demand too much.  Turnover is very high, and an old guy on cancer drugs (me) won't last in that setting either.    So after work I stopped by the beehive and they were buzzing all around me and they are building and filling more comb, and they were all over that Caryopteris and the lavender, and the clovers, collecting nectar, and I felt at peace.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 3, 2013 at 7:21pm

It feels so good to read all your updates and the activities taking place across the US and The Netherlands. I am the lazy one of the group, take my breakfast with the critters and my afternoons with a nap. Suits me just fine. I feel great. Had a five hour session of chemo yesterday and it didn't set me back on my back side as before. So, things are getting better. 

Hope you all are well, happy, having a nice 4th of July. I shall poach a lovely salmon steak and make a cold soup to go with it. Still don't handle raw foods well. 

Comment by Annie Thomas on July 3, 2013 at 1:12pm


Accept for tomatoes and okra, just about everything else is already done for the season.  July and August are rest seasons here in Florida, as it is too hot to grow much.  It's also our rainy season so mold is growing on the soil and plants in many areas.  Beautiful mushrooms are all over my yard... I wish I knew which were safe to eat!  I'll be be envious of all my northern gardening friends in August, when I am just starting to replant and you are all harvesting.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 3, 2013 at 9:29am

Planting cats is funny Ruth.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 3, 2013 at 9:27am

My watermelons love this 100 F heat, so I do also.

Comment by Daniel W on July 3, 2013 at 9:00am

Chris, I like getting 'volunteers' around my garden too!

I didn't know about marrowfat peas.  Sounds great!  I've been getting snowpeas for the past month, almost done with those.

Oh the heat!  I'm watering containers daily.  This winter I started more fig cuttings than I should have.  Some for me, some to give away.  Now they are in 1 to 3 gallon pots.  Yesterday I transferred some to larger containers.  Also other plants in similar situation.

In the yard at large, I used the lazy gardener's approach over the past couple of months, and mulched around trees and shrubs with grass clippings collected while mowing.  A little bit each time so they would dry in the sun and not become mushy.  So I think those are protected.  Still, the vulnerable ones get water once weekly.

This weekend, if I have the energy, the tomatoes will get a straw mulch.  Key word is "if".

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 3, 2013 at 12:25am

Well, better late than never, Chris.

Comment by Plinius on July 1, 2013 at 12:23am

I started to harvest the marrowfat peas; my best harvest so far - if we're lucky we can make a meal out of them ;-)

Now that I stopped trying to have a flower garden, they come out everywhere! For three years on end I sowed Sweet Williams - no result at all - and now they are everywhere, in all the colours of the rainbow!

Comment by Daniel W on June 30, 2013 at 10:31am

Annie, those ears of corn really are beautiful.

I am a little envious that you can harvest corn already.  Even though i love my climate.  Until last week it was barely warm enough to plant corn. 

Like much of the west, the past few days have been hot, not just warm.  But still feeling fortunate. 

Okra probably won't make it.  Maybe try again next year.  The little seedlings just sulked and now appear to be dying.

Tomatoes just starting to take off.

Planting some bean plants today, and a short-season cantaloupe.  I started the seeds a week or 2 ago in containers.

Harvested multiplier onions yesterday, and the first of the garlic.  They are curing / drying in the garage.  Didn't want them to 'cook' in the sun.


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