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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Stressed Bees

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Feb 12. 2 Replies

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

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Comment by Annie Thomas on May 2, 2013 at 6:08pm

Thanks Joan!  Come July, it will be my turn to have gardener's envy, as everything here will be dried up.

Dominic- we've had a wet spring up here in Gainesville.  It's raining here today too... slow and steady, just as you described.  I laughed out loud at your comment, "God must be ignoring all the brides and picnic goers right now." 

Does anyone have experience with Elderberry?  I have a very tall (over 20 ft.), stringy tree.  It's flowering right now.  When there is fruit, it is much too high for me to pick.  I was thinking of lopping it off at breast height, thinking it will either throw out shoots and become bushy... or die.  If it's the latter, I'd rather leave it as is, as the birds enjoy the fruit probably more than I would.  Any advice would be appreciated.

Comment by Dominic Florio on May 2, 2013 at 5:55pm

The most wonderful thing is happening in Florida, it's raining.  It has been so long since rain fell.  I actually go out and stand in it, because it is just so amazing and life giving.  It's great not to have to drag out the hose.  It's one of those slow rains, all day long, where it really soaks in.  You can see such a difference as compared to hand watering.  I guess all the prayers of the farmers and gardeners have been answered.  God must be ignoring all the brides and picnic goers right now.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 5:18pm

Annie, my goodness, my soil isn't warm enough for bean seeds yet. Although after today, it should be right up there. 

A lovely harvest! Can almost taste them. Please keep us posted. 

Comment by Annie Thomas on May 2, 2013 at 3:24pm

My daughter and I were able to harvest some veggies yesterday for dinner!  These are the very first of the yellow squash and purple dragon's tongue beans.  The beans were the best I've ever tasted!  I boiled them in salt water and then dressed them with a little butter and some dried dill.  They turned chartreuse after cooking.  I am already learning how to improve next year, as the beans will only produce for three weeks.  Next year I will plant in two week increments.  The garden is my little science experiment and I take lots of notes and weigh and record everything we bring in to eat. No bees here to pollinate the squash, so it's up to me and some Q-tips!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 11:06pm
I will not worry and will think about you and encourage you to pause now and then. I know you will be wise. On with healing, with some joy thrown in for good measure.
Comment by Daniel W on May 1, 2013 at 10:50pm

Joan, we had mild frost here last night.  As far as i could tell, the only plants that were affected were potatoes, a couple of fig trees with damaged leaves, and new leaves on the mulberry tree I've been obsessing over.  All should recover, I think.   If not....  gardening is like that sometimes.  Interesting almost nothing else appears to have been affected.

As for rest....  William Blake said “The busy bee has no time for sorrow.”  The workplace is intense, but I need to continue.  I think it's no worse than it was before I got sick.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 10:05pm
Your lovely photos refresh me, Daniel. Our weather continues very nippy. Just a few minutes out and I come in with burning fingertips. We had a snifter of snow yesterday in spite of the 40∘F weather. Must still be April. With the turn of the calendar, perhaps things will warm up a bit.
I am relieved to learn you are working because you want to return to normal; just assure me you can rest when you need or want to.
Comment by Daniel W on May 1, 2013 at 9:22pm

Photo from public domain via

Worker honeybee apis meliferra carnica on echinacea purpurea flower

Comment by Daniel W on April 30, 2013 at 9:17am

Dominic I agree with you wholeheartedly.  This weekend I spent a fair amount of time just staring at the fresh green leaves unfolding.  Lifted my figurative spirits.

Plus I watch the new fruits reveal themselves.  I nurture them, they nurture me.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 30, 2013 at 9:15am

I agree Dominic.


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