Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry on Friday. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston on Thursday. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8. 21 Replies

Design with Nature

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 0 Replies

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Annie Thomas on March 23, 2013 at 9:04am

Idaho-  those are dragon tongue beans.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 23, 2013 at 8:29am

Annie, what are those short plants with large leaves in the back right part of your back 40?

Comment by amer chohan on March 22, 2013 at 10:29pm

Opuntia in rich soils and by fertilization grow very fast and its lower leaves or stem can't support the upper leaves(mine is in danger of that as it is showing overgrowth). So they tend to fall over. It happens to all opuntias, a little more in case of microdasys. I got my problem solved by introducing them to poor soil and having limmited growth.

Its not consistant watering habbit which matters in case of damage to cactus plant. One overwatering espacially watering or rain in winter is enough to destroy whole year's effort.

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 10:19pm

I do!  We get to see a bunch of them.  Years ago, a friend gave me a bunch of luna moth caterpillars for my classroom.  Each child had a caterpillar, and I would bring in fresh sweet gum leaves each day.  We had so much fun watching them create their chrysalis (sorry, I don't know the plural form), and then watching them hatch.  

Comment by A Former Member on March 22, 2013 at 10:11pm

Cool. Do you ever get to see the luna moths?

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 10:04pm

The pods are certainly a detractor... especially if you like to walk barefoot.  I dislike them because mature trees topple easily.  The large surface area of the leaves collects a lot of water after a rainstorm, and they have rather shallow roots.  I used to live across the street from a park that had about 50 sweetgums.  They were beautiful and produced wonderful shade, but at least one would fall each year.  The ones in my lot, if they fell westward, would land on my house.  That, and the leaves create just one more raking season, as they fall when nothing else does around here.  I live in an old house in an old neighborhood.  It creates a lot of work, but I love it.  My yard feels like an aviary every morning and late afternoon!

Comment by A Former Member on March 22, 2013 at 9:58pm

My complex has nothing under the Magnolias, though we once tried English ivy. Why do you dislike the sweetgum? Because of the pods?

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 9:54pm

Dallas-  Under the magnolias I have azaleas, palms, ferns, and many weeds. ;-)  I'm on a half acre lot and have the two magnolias in the front corners, two live oaks in the back corners, and then 30+ mature pines, sweetgum (which I don't like one bit other than they are the larval plant for luna moths), and many fruit trees and palms.  I am always raking up one thing or another.  I grew up in Chicago, where you rake once a year. I try not to get aggravated by the leaves as I really enjoy having so many mature trees.

Comment by A Former Member on March 22, 2013 at 8:03pm

Have you ever had any luck getting anything to grow under you Magnolias?

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 22, 2013 at 7:59pm

I have a Neuton mower, which is battery powered.  It's so quiet I hear the grass being snipped, but it's not powerful enough to suck up and mulch the leaves.  After raking, I do use the leaves as mulch around the yard.  I have magnolias in the front, so I do prefer the live oak leaves to those.  I hope I am done with raking for a bit.  I need to get to work on my chicken coop!


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