Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 170
Latest Activity: 7 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Permaculture U. of Mass

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 16. 0 Replies

"All I want for christmas is....."

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Larry Dec 26, 2014. 8 Replies

Gardening in central Texas "pan" soil

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 25, 2014. 3 Replies

An Old Lady's Hugelkultur Bed

Started by Barbara Livingston. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 10, 2014. 3 Replies

Permaculture Concept. Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 6, 2014. 2 Replies

My south garden 1993 & 2013

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Barbara Livingston Dec 1, 2014. 1 Reply

Permaculture, Ben Falk

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 30, 2014. 0 Replies

Permaculture, Bill Mollison

Started by Joan Denoo Nov 16, 2014. 0 Replies

Plant Labels

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 8, 2014. 21 Replies

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Comment by Steph S. on April 21, 2013 at 11:03pm

I enjoy reading about all your gardens. Wonderful.

When my grapes start producing I will post some pictures.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 21, 2013 at 6:33pm

John Caddy <morning.earth@earthlink.net>

"Buckhorn cholla opens flowers to desert sun,

every antler point another bud grown red.
Beebuzz intones each opened bloom.
Soon wrens will build nests in cholla forks
so predators will find not eggs but spines.

"Note: Photo Anza-Borrego desert, CA"

~ John Caddy 

Comment by Dominic Florio on April 20, 2013 at 10:39pm

Sentient, you  are right about figs.  They are not my favorite fruit, being that they are so sugary sweet.  

I saw and have made a great recipe from the food channel.  I don't have measurements, so I'll give approximates or leave it up to personal taste.

To a large bowl of sliced strawberries, add the zest and the juice of one lemon. add sugar or artificial sweetener to taste. Then add Balsamic vinegar, slowly to your taste.  You can always add more.  And then sprinkle the whole thing with fresh ground pepper.  It's great but even better if it sits over night.  You can eat it like that or put it on top of ice cream, or whatever.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 20, 2013 at 12:26pm

Thank you Dominic, for reminding me of Cicero. Here is another of his treasures: 

Cicero, "A Mind without instruction ..."

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 20, 2013 at 12:17pm

I just walked through the garden and it is calling me to clean up in expectation of new growth. It is 43 degrees F now and will be warming up to 70 on Wednesday. That will be a full week, and a day since my surgery  and I chomp at the bit.  Hyacinths, Bright Eyes, crucus of all colors and I found a burgundy Helleborus in the back garden. Rhubarb stands at about 9" ... my mouth waters. 

Comment by Daniel W on April 20, 2013 at 11:01am

SPud - I looked up the cherry flies, sounds like the landscape fabric is a good option, but would prevent growing much  under the trees.

I think we manage to eat just about every cherry from the trees. So not much dropping to the ground from year to year.

Comment by Daniel W on April 20, 2013 at 10:49am

Dominic, Cicero was right!  Beautiful scene.

On sour foods - I guess I'm the outlier!  I like fruits that are tree ripened, as sweet and flavorful as they can get!  My partner likes them sour.  He likes to pick them all from the tree before ripe so none go to waste.  We have a "Truce" - he gets to pick some but not all, and leaves some for me.  My inlaws did me a favor and picked a big bowl of blackberries, not ripe.  I did not like them.

On the other hand, the rhubarb crunch I made had 1/3 less sugar and twice the rhubarb as the original recipe, and I liked it a lot.  So did my partner.  Maybe this weekend....

Figs are awful if not fully ripe - not sour, just the flavor of....  bad.  Store bought figs are like that.  Truly ripe ones are too delicate to ship.

I don't know what to expect insect-wise from the new place.  It's more in the countryside.  Maybe the worms and flies will be a bigger issue. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 20, 2013 at 10:22am

I don't like spraying chemicals around either, and I plan on eliminating all spraying this year.  Maybe I can find someone that will buy my last gallon of fruit fly spray.  The gallon I used last year didn't work anyway.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 20, 2013 at 10:17am

The first 2 years of production, my cherry trees were free of fruit flies, but then they must have found the trees and started multiplying rapidly.

From what I've read, it appears the Cherry Fruit Fly becomes an adult with wings and flies to the tree.  However, thanks for reminding me about Tanglefoot.  I bought some 2 years ago, but never used it because I was too discouraged to try fighting anymore.  But, I may try it this year before I give-up completely.

If I acquire an acre or more of land, I may try cherries again because I'm thinking that fabric on the ground under the trees would probably keep them from burrowing into the ground or coming out of the ground the next year.  The reason I've not tried that here is I have limited gardening space and so grow produce under the trees.

Comment by Dominic Florio on April 20, 2013 at 7:15am


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