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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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Latest Activity: 12 hours ago

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 2:02pm

Actually it is to pull oxygen into the soil. You don't want the roots to dry out because they have tiny littler filaments that go out into the moist soil. The worms will stay below that line. If the soil becomes dry and hard, worms cannot survive. You want the worms to come to the surface and make their little journey from top soil to lower layers. When the kids were small, we had a worm farm, as well as ant farms and aquariums for lizards and snakes. Watching how they keep house is quite amazing. We even had a pet jumping spider in our kitchen window and she was very clean. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 20, 2013 at 12:58pm

Joan, If I had room for flowers, I would make sure blue was well represented.  I probably like the color because it's harder to find.

I've a question Joan.  You said let the top 2 inches of soil dry before watering again.  Is that to pull air into the soil and/or to keep the worms happy?

Comment by Daniel W on July 20, 2013 at 12:48pm

Some Perovskias attract pollinating bees.  Blue flowers are harder to find, so your blue garden is really special. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 11:47am

From left to righ in the blue garden: hollyhock, monkshood, pansies,  Russian sage (Perovskia atriplicifolia).

Comment by Daniel W on July 20, 2013 at 11:47am

Hollyhocks, roses and mullein.  Seems like perfect candidates for a cottage garden.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 11:39am

From left to right: garlic, hollyhock, roses, mullein.

Common Mullein

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 11:35am

This is a photo of a small garlic patch with one gigantic garlic as high as the hollyhocks. I am eager to taste it to see if it is like its brothers and sisters in the patch. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2013 at 11:03am
Sentient, how timely your article is for me. My roses are developing a strange growth pattern on new leaves. Much like the calcium deficiency shown here. I have some in the shed and will give it a try.
Comment by Daniel W on July 20, 2013 at 10:34am

Joan, I haven't been to Butchart in years - probably 13 years ago.  It's a very beautiful place.


This is an unattributed pic from another website.  I like to think about why leaves don't look right.  This pic gives some indication.


The pic does not show the role of pH - if too acid or too alkaline, a mineral deficiency can be  apparent even if those minerals are abundant.  For example, citrus, rhodies, blueberries in alkaline soil will look iron deficient.  If pH is lowered, the deficiency resolves.  If iron is added, it doesn't.


I had tomato plants in a purchased topsoil/compost mix, with yellow leaves.  Normally I mix as much of my own compost with my own soil, as I can - I feel reassured about absence of poisons, and balance of nutrients, that way.  But in this case I bought the mix.  The tomato leaves were yellow.  I thought....  Magnesium deficient.  Looked like the description in this illustration. Added Epson Salts (Magnesium sulfate) 1/4 teaspoon per gallon of water, and the leaves are green again.  Maybe a good guess.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2013 at 1:27pm

Just a reminder to those who love gardens, Butchart Gardens in Vancouver, B.C. have many ideas for how to grow and manage plants.  I took an idea I saw there for climbing roses and I use it now in my garden. I fan out the branches on my fence, cut off those that go into the path, or re-direct them to the fence, and I have  a wall of yellow roses, they are well ventilate, and well supported. 

Butchart Gardens, Vancouver, B.C. photos

Mine needs deadheading but I just don't have the energy at this time. They will wait for me, just not give me late blooms. That is their revenge. 


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